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At 09:06 PM 4/17/01, you wrote:

>Namaste Angelique,

>

>I seem to remember getting the boot off your list for a difference in

>theology. What kind of freedom of speech is that?

 

ROTFLOL!! You are one of several people who seem to get a lot of

mileage from imagining yourself my victim. Get over it!

You were not booted off, and last time I looked you are still

d.. web only. You were put on moderated status for your

intolerance of anyone who had a good word for your ex-Guru... which

followed your intolerance of anyone who crticised him.

 

If people want to behave like the monkeys they are, rather than the

>humans they can become, then its their karma. As long as children and

>other monkeys that want to be human aren't given 'attachments', by the

>diversions of pornography, and it doesn't encourage molestation by

>perverts.

 

There were perverts long before there was pornography. There will

still be perverts if pornography is banned.. if anything, they are more

likely to become predatory if denied another outlet. There are sexual

predators masquerading as Priests and Gurus, who don't go near porn.. do

you think Sai Baba indulges in porn? No? Yet, you have often accused him of

perverse, predatory behavior.

So much for your argument.. pooof!

 

The real irony, is that if not for the K-list being subsidized for

many years by my work as a Pro-Dominatrix.. which allowed me the cash and

leisure time to run it, (before I moved it to ) there would be no

K-list.. and possibly no Satsangh list, either.

>There has to be absolute controls, if that isn't possible

>then it should all be banned.

 

Now, there's a tolerant attitude.. <grin>

>Most of the socalled tantra is just

>distorted crap of the original teaching by horny old bastards looking

>for another reason to get it off........Tony.

 

If not for sex, Tony, you would never have been born. If your parents

were tantricas who redirected the procreative energy upwards, or chose to

be celibate, you would never have been born. Yet, you live, you spew

judgments, you attempt to repress.. and it doesn't mean a thing. Sex is the

strongest force in nature, and it is Sacred.

It is fortunate for you, that your parents were horny monkeys who

indulged in sex.. :) :) :)

Blessings!

 

PS: While I felt it proper to defend against your erroneous accusations, I

imagine Harsha would prefer we did not rehash this old argument here..

peace to you.You can respond if you like, but I'll not reply.

 

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, Mystress Angelique Serpent >

> PS: While I felt it proper to defend against your erroneous

accusations, I

> imagine Harsha would prefer we did not rehash this old argument

here..

> peace to you.You can respond if you like, but I'll not reply.

 

 

Thanks Angelique.

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

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, Mystress Angelique Serpent <Mystress@k...>

wrote:

>

> At 09:06 PM 4/17/01, you wrote:

> >Namaste Angelique,

> >

> >I seem to remember getting the boot off your list for a difference

in

> >theology. What kind of freedom of speech is that?

>

> ROTFLOL!! You are one of several people who seem to get a lot

of

> mileage from imagining yourself my victim. Get over it!

> You were not booted off, and last time I looked you are still

> d.. web only. You were put on moderated status for your

> intolerance of anyone who had a good word for your ex-Guru... which

> followed your intolerance of anyone who crticised him.

>

> If people want to behave like the monkeys they are, rather than the

> >humans they can become, then its their karma. As long as children

and

> >other monkeys that want to be human aren't given 'attachments', by

the

> >diversions of pornography, and it doesn't encourage molestation by

> >perverts.

>

> There were perverts long before there was pornography. There

will

> still be perverts if pornography is banned.. if anything, they are

more

> likely to become predatory if denied another outlet. There are

sexual

> predators masquerading as Priests and Gurus, who don't go near

porn.. do

> you think Sai Baba indulges in porn? No? Yet, you have often accused

him of

> perverse, predatory behavior.

> So much for your argument.. pooof!

>

> The real irony, is that if not for the K-list being subsidized

for

> many years by my work as a Pro-Dominatrix.. which allowed me the

cash and

> leisure time to run it, (before I moved it to ) there would

be no

> K-list.. and possibly no Satsangh list, either.

>

> >There has to be absolute controls, if that isn't possible

> >then it should all be banned.

>

> Now, there's a tolerant attitude.. <grin>

>

> >Most of the socalled tantra is just

> >distorted crap of the original teaching by horny old bastards

looking

> >for another reason to get it off........Tony.

>

> If not for sex, Tony, you would never have been born. If your

parents

> were tantricas who redirected the procreative energy upwards, or

chose to

> be celibate, you would never have been born. Yet, you live, you spew

> judgments, you attempt to repress.. and it doesn't mean a thing. Sex

is the

> strongest force in nature, and it is Sacred.

> It is fortunate for you, that your parents were horny monkeys

who

> indulged in sex.. :) :) :)

> Blessings!

 

Namaste Angelique et al,

 

I think you will find that I was booted off the K list and then later

moderated. The cause wasn't sai baba and his pedophilia, (you probably

read the article I organised in the Vancouver Sun.

http://www.vancouversun.com/newsite/news/010227/5007932.html

 

The cause was terminology and differences over K. I proffered that

Sakti wasn't in fact the energy but Saguna Brahman or Goddess Herself.

Energy or K is actually Prana. K is everywhere, not just in the

sushumna. There was also another difference when I stated that the

Crown Chakra isn't enlightenment and that the move to the 'Heart

Centre', which is also extant, was req'd. Also that most of the K

experiences relayed are not real. I also quoted Lakshamana Swami and

Sarada Devi on this.

 

With regard to Tantra, the idea of it being sexual is just a

distortion of the teaching of K or Realisation. The only person that

could perform the sexual tantra without attachment would be a

jivanmukti and they wouldn't be interested in such a diversion.

It is a known psychological fact that porn influences the mind of

perverts and precipitates actions. I didn't say ban it, I said control

it, to prevent children seeing it or anyone else accidentally forming

more attachments, vikaras, vasanas and attachments.

 

It is a matter for debate whether I was lucky my parents were horny

monkeys and I was conceived. A child cries at birth, the relatives cry

when he dies. He is happy at death! 'Who' dies anyway?

 

I am not pc and for all this so called tantra etc, it is just more

attachment. You can stimulate a part of a woman's brain to produce

orgasms, that does that make the machine or the technician the

Goddess? Sex is just an animal attachment that's all, eventually to be

discarded..........Om Namah Sivaya......Tony.

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