Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 In a message dated 04/20/2001 6:10:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, JustLynette writes: <The amount of respect one shows another is the amount of respect they show themselves.> I have been reading your words here, Lynette, for a while now..and it seems to me that plagiarism is occuring quite often by you... Yet, you share with the list that it is your "beloved", speaking to you. That is not showing respect for yourself, Lynette... Norma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 I have been reading your words here, Lynette, for a while now..and it seems to me that plagiarism is occuring quite often by you... Yet, you share with the list that it is your "beloved", speaking to you. That is not showing respect for yourself, Lynette... Norma Norma, and I've been gone from CW's list for quite a while.... I am no longer under his control... and will not allow you to control me. My truth is my own... If you are in doubt, perhaps you should question CW.... He has pages and pages of my own truth that I sent to the list, that he never posted to Anunda...He told me personally that I was at risk, because of what I knew.. And he was seeking to protect me. What he was doing was silencing my truth... You can believe it is plagarism.. and quite frankly I wonder how much of my own writing he has posted under his name after I left... Which I welcome all of it, to everybody... Truth is truth....If you wish, Norma, I'd be happy to forward everything, I've written on the mandala . Everything he denied me to share... Every bit of it.... All of it, I'm happy to share it.. I am into the middle of a second ream of paper of my own words, Norma... What you perceive as a lack of respect... I would not be showing respect to my truth, by denying expression of my own words. Respect is respect... Love is Love... Compassion is Compassion.. I used CW's words today purposely... And this is the only time I purposely used his words... {The amount of respect your show yourself is the amount of respect you show others} Because for the first time last night, I understood what he meant..REALLY KNEW WHAT THAT MEANT. And that is thanks to Wim!!!!!!! Norma.... You can choose, of your own free will, to continue to blindly follow the guru of your choice, CW, or you can decide to stand on your own, and discover the truths for yourself...... I no longer will be silenced by those who seek to control me... And no, I no longer need to use the word Beloved, for I am the Beloved.. Much love and Respect Norma, Lynette ps... I do not enjoy being harsh, Norma.... but I love you, and wish to help you open your eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Hi Every-One Ah words, why do we have to rely on them so much? In light of some remarks about plagiarism. At some point I had to write Anunda to ask for acknowledgement of material that was copied from me on some the Anunda web pages. The owner of that site did so, no problem. It could be that the same happened before with other people's material, I am sure it can be sorted out. Even though it is important to get that sorted out as indeed it is important to list sources, what is more important is to see truth in the words first, that first..., none of us owns wisdom, if we could... it would not be wisdom. Be gentle on each other and enjoy seeing fellow beings move forward... maybe chewing on other people's words... at least they are chewing them... Notice the subject line of this post, I don't know who started this thread... but that is what this is about... When it comes down to it, eventually we all know the same words, initially we all understand them differently, which is the difficulty of communication, but when one applies the words (it is too bad that it had to come to that) one finds out which combination of words have unifying power, because they are not just words, they are "logos" and which ones tear us apart. "Logos", well I guess I have to acknowledge my source here, which is the apostle John. On the other hand, why should I, I remember many of John's words and experiences first hand, first person singular (No... I'm NOT his reincarnation, it does not work that way.) Where do YOU start and I stop, where did I start, and my mother stop... It does not go that way. We humans are overlapping entities, variations on the same wonderful theme, in different places, at different times.... And we will all discover that we emerge from the one, merge into the one, in reality are the one and 'in fact' at times are poor representations of the one, trying as heck to recover 'same one'. First we try it on our own, then we try it together, after many tries we find out it takes only ONE try one try at unconditional love Let me now start quoting my sources: "A" "B" "C" "D" .. "DBTRFHT" "a" "b" .. .. "abri kati patruva nima la kaya" .. .. "1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,..." "9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,..." .. .. "14" "13" "12" "11" "10" "9" "8" "7" "6" "5" "4" "3" "2" "ONE" "NONE" "I AM" Love, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 One can "know" truth One can "understand" truth and One can "apply" truth to their lives First comes the "knowing"...But until one can Understand and then Apply, the "knowing" does little good. For example: I can "know" the facts behind WW II but if I do not understand or apply the truth even with my "one" life, then I've really learned nothing. Knowing that we are "ONE" does not mean a thing, Until I understand that "ONENESS" And Apply that "ONENESS" The amount of compassion one shows another is the amount of compassion they show themselves The amount of love one bestows on another is the amount of love they bestow upon themselves The amount of respect one shows another is the amount of respect they show themselves. Love, Lynette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 It would be polite to acknowledge the source of the material that you are taking and quoting .. which is originally authored by other people on other lists.. and where material is directly quoted from a website, it is etiquestte to acknowledge the source of the material. These are not your words Lynette , "Lynette" <JustLynette@a...> wrote: > The amount of compassion one shows another > is the amount of compassion they show themselves > > The amount of love one bestows on another > is the amount of love they bestow upon themselves > > The amount of respect one shows another > is the amount of respect they show themselves. > > Love, Lynette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Dear Amanda, Am glad that you keep a handle on it, you are doing a good job. Am glad though that Lynette's, Norma's and Lifestreams' (?) posts came through... Once in a while, Harsha's can handle a thorn or two, and a rose past its bloom. But you are there with your pruning sheers ready to keep... the roses coming. Love you, Wim PS Love Harsha too, but don't tell him, he would bloom too quickly... would not want him to lose his petals prematurely. Love every one else too, must be the spring blossoms here in Victoria... PPS. There is a problem with love (hehe), takes up all my time, maybe Amanda, you can do something about it, send me a thorn or two and a rose past its bloom. - <mumblecat <> Friday, April 20, 2001 2:02 PM Re: knowing/understanding/applying > > Hello Lynette and Norma, > > While it is no problem to discuss the issues of plagiarism, > copyright, who owns what and gurus (who's hot and who's not) here, I > must ask you to take personal confrontations and discussions of > private matters off the list. On beforehand, thanks. > > > Love, > > Amanda. > > > > > > /join > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar > on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription > between digest and normal mode. > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Hello Lynette and Norma, While it is no problem to discuss the issues of plagiarism, copyright, who owns what and gurus (who's hot and who's not) here, I must ask you to take personal confrontations and discussions of private matters off the list. On beforehand, thanks. Love, Amanda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 Beautiful, Wim!! >Hi Every-One > >Ah words, why do we have to rely on them so much? > >snip< >When it comes down to it, eventually we all know the same words, initially >we all understand them differently, which is the difficulty of >communication, but when one applies the words (it is too bad that it had to >come to that) one finds out which combination of words have unifying power, >because they are not just words, they are "logos" and which ones tear us >apart. >snip< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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