Guest guest Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 Dear Tony -- I find a grain of truth in what you say. This is the grain of truth I find: As long as there persists the sense of a being apart, that being, considering itself as having an existence, will crave, not only for distractions through experiences, but security and predictability. But life isn't secure or predictable, and distractions through experience may build tolerance and require further and more intense experience. Consider -- craving may be for religious experience as well as sensual experience, may involve sensory deprivation, unusual postures, ordeals to induce visions, fasting, chanting or meditating for great lengths of time -- craving may be to escape the senses as well as to glorify sensual experience. craving may be for a life of solitude or for a life immersed in excitement, drugs or parties. When the sense of having an existence is not, when the sense of a being apart is not, not only does no craving for distraction or experience arise, there is nothing apart that can serve as distraction or separable experience. From this "now" arises all. All that arises is this "now". There literally is nothing apart, nothing that can distract a "me" that has no separable existence. It is for "this one" to look into this: is there a "me" claiming an existence apart, looking for escape or something to have, looking for a particular experience? No one outside can "be the judge". This is for "this one" to look into, directly. Namaste, Dan >Tony: >The problem with bondage, depravity, distorted tantra, sexual gymnastics, etc is they are a diversion. It is not that I am judging what is right or wrong. What is an impediment to liberation is the forming of new and powerful samskaras or tendencies. These odd behaviours do not help, in fact they continue to reinforce the senses, which in essence are the cause of our bondage. It is the senses that keep us on planet earth, there is no moksha until they are risen above. Most of the practitioners of these odd behaviours do not follow a path of advaita or non dual knowledge, in its truest sense. They are attached to experiences and see them as being the 'be all', when the 'be all', is beyond all experiences. The preamble to this list covers the teachings of Ramana Maharshi, who taught 'Who am I?', not what am I and what can I experience? There are other lists that accomodate all these sensual diversions. However I am prepared to debate any point on them here. Om Namah Sivaya......Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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