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Dear Angelique,

 

It sounds like you have some legitimate complaints about the negative

stereotyping you have had to deal with in your life.

Truly, I am not unsympathetic about that and the plight of any and all

marginalized people who are lumped into groups and somehow rejected on

that basis. I will also freely admit to being sensitive myself about

similar stereotypes and other negative characterizations made about

Christians, or women, etc. I don't mean to minimize your hurt

feelings, nor all the many issues you have raised in your posts, but

I would like us to find some way to de-escalate this current

situation. The fallout with the list has only polarized people into

taking sides and created even more dissension way beyond the scope

of whatever the original issues raised might deserve.

 

 

Another thing we might agree on at this point is that some of these

issues about topics allowed and free speech are divisive, to say the

least. This much dissension and polarizing of the group can

further distract from the intended list focus and harmony of

community. Not saying that is anyone's fault... just stating the fact

that many posts, both pro and con have been generated already, some

with heat.

 

If the list could cut us both some slack here,and we do the same for

one another, this situation need not be escalated into some life and

death crisis.

 

So it might be helpful to relax and take a break from this particular

controversy. Just a suggestion. This need not become a bigger crisis

and nothing urgent actually needs to be done. People have already

expressed a great variety of perspectives and all that is clear is

that there is not a group consenus.If we can remain friends and be

friendly to one another anyway, there need not be any serious harm

done.

 

Angelique, I just learned this morning that a very dear person died of

a heart attack at 4am this morning. This man means a great deal to

everyone in our choral group, as he has freely given of his time to

manage it for over 30 years.

The Mozart Requiem that we are currently rehearsing was composed by

Mozart as he himself lay dying at age 36 and will now be sung

dedicated to Paul. Even in death and as the expression of deep

sorrow, beautiful and joyful music can emerge to be shared. Still, it

takes many false starts, mistakes, and lots of practice to bring out

the beauty of this music,to create harmony.

 

The fact that we each take time from our lives to freely give of

ourselves and to connect with others, here on this list or anywhere

in life,is far too beautiful to let it be marred by allowing

ourselves to lose one another, or to miss really hearing and seeing

one another. All I can do is open and re-open my heart to you,

Angelique, and I do.

 

With love,

Gloria

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Angelique,

 

I'm glad you're here, and look forward to more of your posts. In my case

both Christianity and sex have been part of my path (though at different

times :-) ). The Christianity was old-fashioned Southern

pentacostal-style, with quite an anti-intellectual, anti-modernist,

anti-sexual slant. And the sex was in the context of a deep, loving,

exploratory relationship with a transgendered person here in New York City,

and the whole subcultural world that came along with that relationship. W/

a tiny bit of SMBD. It's ironic too, that each of these subcultures can

carry very strong "anti" notions and feelings about the other culture,

based on all the usual stuff like fear, ignorance, hatred, etc.

 

Not sure how much of this is appropriate to talk about on HS. In any case

I'd like to welcome you!

 

Love,

 

--Greg

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Dear Glo,

 

A beautiful post!

 

I'm so sorry about your friend. But how wonderful that you can give the

gift of this beautiful Requiem!

 

Love,

Dharma

> Dear Angelique, It sounds like you have some legitimate complaints

>about the negative stereotyping you have had to deal with in your life.

>Truly, I am not unsympathetic about that and

>snip<

>Angelique, I just learned this morning that a very dear

>person died of a heart attack at 4am this morning. This man means a great

>deal to everyone in our choral group, as he has freely given of his

>time to manage it for over 30 years. The Mozart Requiem that we are

>currently rehearsing was composed

>by Mozart as he himself lay dying at age 36 and will now be

>sung dedicated to Paul. Even in death and as the expression of deep

>sorrow, beautiful and joyful music can emerge to be shared.

>Still, it takes many false starts, mistakes, and lots of practice to bring

>out the beauty of this music,to create harmony. The fact that we each

>take time from our lives to freely give of

>ourselves and to connect with others, here on this list or anywhere in

>life,is

>far too beautiful to let it be marred by allowing ourselves to lose one

>another,

>or to miss really hearing and seeing one another. All I can do is open

>and re-open my heart to you, Angelique, and I do. With love, Gloria

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