Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 In a message dated 04/27/2001 5:58:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, insight writes: << Nor etc. - because the self is ever unattached and never identitifies itself with the body. >> I don't know where these words come from...and that doesn't concern me much...but what concerns me...is to mislead anyone here with them inferring that the body is not important...for the self....Perhaps my interpretation here, is my own...but I would like to say that the body is the vehicle to free the self from all of the past which has controlled it and kept duality alive......All the issues and conflicts have their chance for being resolved within the body...And to deny this, is another ticket into reincarnation... Norma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > ...... but what concerns me...is to mislead anyone here with them inferring > that the body is not important...for the self....Perhaps my interpretation > here, is my own...but I would like to say that the body is the vehicle to > free the self from all of the past which has controlled it and kept duality > alive......All the issues and conflicts have their chance for being resolved > within the body...And to deny this, is another ticket into reincarnation... > > Norma So right, (but I would snip that last bit about reincarnation) Love, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 22. I am not this body, nor have I a body. I am not jiva. I am Pure Consciousness. This indeed was my bondage that I had a thirst for this life. body - because the self is Pure Consciousness and the body is matter. Nor etc. - because the self is ever unattached and never identitifies itself with the body. Jiva - refers to the infinite Self. The self identifying itself with egoism etc. is designated as jiva. Bondage - life presupposes identification of the Self with the body. Hence to desire to live is to deny the true nature of the Self and is possible only in the state of ignorance, that is, the belief that there is death and cessation of being. 23. Oh, in me, the limitless ocean, on the rising of the wind of the mind, diverse waves of worlds are produced forthwith. In reality there is nothing but the Self. It is only name and form superimposed on the Self that give the appearance of reality to the world. But when this appearance vanishes with the dawn of Knowledge, only one Reality, the Self, remains, just as when the wind subsides the waves also suside; their name and form vanish and it is seen that they were nothing but water. 24. With the calming of the wind of mind in the infinite ocean of myself, the ark of the universe, unfortunately for jiva, the trader, meets destruction. Jiva etc. - jiva is a trader; his actions are his commerce; and his good and bad fruits are his profit and loss. The world is his merchantman in which he carries on his trade. Meets destruction - vanishes. The universe and the jiva manifest themselves with the manifestation of mind. With the destruction of the latter, the former are also destroyed. 25. How wonderful! In me, the shoreless ocean, the waves of individual selves, according to their nature, rise, strike each other, play for a time and disappear. According etc. - according to the karmas of the jivas. Disappear - When ignorance is destroyed and karma is worked out. Chapter 2 ends here. Chapter 3 begins with the Test of Self-realization. A bit more nitty-gritty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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