neither out nor in

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Dear Joyce,

 

Never mind, whatever anybody thinks or says.

Could you do just one thing, right now...?

Clap your hands...

 

Could you now know with conviction respond to the following question?

Proviso... You are not allowed to use 'words' though.

Who are you?

 

Love, Wim

 

You wrote:

> >>He demolishes the accusations by

> >>proving himself to be ever dwelling in Self-knowledge and completely

> >>unidentified with his own mental and physical actions and therefore

beyond

> >>the domain of value judgements.

>

> NOTE: "unidentified with his own mental and physical actions" - he is not

> identifying himself as a self, person as body, or any other phenomena of

> mind and body. The text does not say he is "out" of his body, nor "in" his

> body, he "dwells in Self-knowledge." Nisargadatta describes what this is

> like somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.

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>

> At 12:58 AM 28/04/01, you wrote:

>>He demolishes the accusations by

>>proving himself to be ever dwelling in Self-knowledge and completely

>>unidentified with his own mental and physical actions and therefore beyond

>>the domain of value judgements.

 

NOTE: "unidentified with his own mental and physical actions" - he is not

identifying himself as a self, person as body, or any other phenomena of

mind and body. The text does not say he is "out" of his body, nor "in" his

body, he "dwells in Self-knowledge." Nisargadatta describes what this is

like somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.

 

Ive read lots of accounts of peoples "journeys outside of the body" but they

still remained identified with it, although less so. Joyce

 

>

>

> in other words ..

> he is out of his body ...

>