Why is this so hard to comprehend?

[Guest guest]

> At 09:04 AM 28/04/01, you wrote:

> > They arise simultaneously, as

> > body and mind, space and form,

> > movement and stillness, arise simultaneously.

 

Did I write that? (I don't think so, at least not yet as it still the 27th

:-)

 

Anyway someone is asking:

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

 

When we finally comprehend with our hands again,

Our mind will have no difficulty comprehending anything...

 

Before I came to Canada I was a sculptor (from when I was 18 to 27... while

I was burning my candle from two sides and in the middle as well.)

 

Space and form, void and form, form and emptiness, movement and stillness

indeed, meet each other in identical instances...

 

Yin is not in any way different from yang except in the limited dimensional

representations as conceived in the deflated universe of flatlanders.

 

The potter knows the bowl inside out,

forming it in the void,

shaping the bowl around nothing

so it may contain something

 

I bet you Avalokiteshvara Bodhisattva was a potter

 

When we finally comprehend with our hands again,

Our mind will have no difficulty comprehending anything...

 

Love,Wim

[Guest guest]

Namaste All,

 

There is the attributeless Universal/Nirguna Brahman.

Somehow, it is averred, that a projection takes place, that at the

same time, is not connected with Nirguna Brahman.

 

This is called Saguna Brahman or the Goddess, in association with the

projected prana and karma, commonly called creation. Within this

illusion there is localised consciousness called jivas or beings.

 

This in fact is a dream and never happened there always is Nirguna

Brahman.

 

Om Namah Sivaya..Tony.

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony --

Namaste All,

There is the attributeless Universal/Nirguna Brahman.

Somehow, it is averred, that a projection takes place, that at the

same time, is not connected with Nirguna Brahman.

Yes. As it is averred that someone was born

and will die.

This is called Saguna Brahman

or the Goddess, in association with the

projected prana and karma, commonly called creation. Within this

illusion there is localised consciousness called jivas or

beings.

Quite so.

And with localized consciousness

arises localized things and qualities.

Which came first -- the localized

things, consciousnesses, or time?

They arise simultaneously, as

body and mind, space and form,

movement and stillness, arise simultaneously.

This in fact is a dream and

never happened there always is Nirguna

Brahman.

Quite so.

The attributeless unconditioned

is all.

Anything experienced, partialized, named,

given qualities, etc., is entirely fiction.

That "what is not, didn't happen,"

is said only because

there is a dream in which saying

this spontaneously arises.

Namaste,

Dan

[Guest guest]

At 09:04 AM 28/04/01, you wrote:

>They arise simultaneously, as

> body and mind, space and form,

> movement and stillness, arise simultaneously.

 

 

From one came two

from two came three

from three came

ten thousand other things

 

but only because two forgot

they were both part of one

saw themselves as apart from one

and sought to find that one

 

and judged themselves (the third creation)

when they could not ..

 

so producing the ten thousand

fruits of their judgement

[Guest guest]

>From one came two

from two came three

from three came

ten thousand other

things

but only because two forgot

they were both part of

one

saw themselves as apart

from one

and sought to find that

one

and judged themselves

(the third creation)

when they could not

...

so producing the ten

thousand

fruits of their judgement

As forgetting is forgotten ...

With nothing to re-member ...

Peace!

;-)