Harsha & All - Ramana Maharshi

[Guest guest]

Dear Harsha and List,

 

There seems to be some 'self deception' going on in the name of 'Bhakti' on

the list.

 

There are those ready to "defend" Sri Ramana Maharshi at every turn if

"something bad" had been perceived said, even though he left the body years

ago.

 

Who the hell is being defended? A concept, an idea, a dead past. The idea

that "Ramana Maharshi's teachings are correct for everyone" and are "a

world teaching."

 

There is something egoistic and improper about this. Sri Ramana Maharshi

himself would certainly think so. He never stated himself a world teacher.

 

***

 

I have permanently d to the mailing list as of

this mailing. There is a religious aspect to this list.... it is no longer

a Satsangha, it is a religion now. Soon there will be "Priests of

Ramanaism." The rot has started.

 

Sad that nobody practices Self-Inquiry, but instead sucks on the pointing

finger, and looks not at the moon. Never look at the moon, or Ramana will

be lost, nyet?

 

Sad, but true... Ramana's teachings are likely now headed down the same

path as those of the Bible 2000 years ago. And the priests and pundits

will take it all away.

 

Namaste,

 

Omkara / Tim

[Guest guest]

On 4/29/01 at 8:19 PM Tim Gerchmez wrote:

 

ºDear Harsha and List,

[...]

º

ºWho the hell is being defended? A concept, an idea, a dead past. The idea

ºthat "Ramana Maharshi's teachings are correct for everyone" and are "a

ºworld teaching."

 

There is a nice anecdote about robbers who broke into the ashram at night

and Ramana bore a good thrashing - he did not defend himself.

Instead, he offered them a good meal. The robbers became disciples.

Don't resist - that's the issue.

º

ºThere is something egoistic and improper about this. Sri Ramana Maharshi

ºhimself would certainly think so. He never stated himself a world teacher.

 

Exactly - he didn't call himself a teacher even. He knew the real nature

and that is quite enough. The disciples and devotees attach the labels and write

the books.

º

º***

[...]

ºSad that nobody practices Self-Inquiry, but instead sucks on the pointing

ºfinger, and looks not at the moon. Never look at the moon, or Ramana will

ºbe lost, nyet?

 

Somewhere I came across the statement that self-enquiry requires spiritual

maturity - and determination. And I also came across a few who were expressing

frustration over the method - it isn't for everyone.

º

ºSad, but true... Ramana's teachings are likely now headed down the same

ºpath as those of the Bible 2000 years ago. And the priests and pundits

ºwill take it all away.

 

The Buddha didn't found Buddhism either. When the Buddha was roaming

the country, many "attained" nirvana (substratum remaining) because of he

himself being the perfect example of the teaching. And then, the issue that the

abandoned wife and child became disciples. Try that with an abandoned wife

now... She will probably shoot you at first sight

That shows the "evolution" of selfishness... Whereas no-self is "the" issue...

Hence the many splits after the Buddha passed into parinirvana...

Hence the limited value of many ancient scriptures - human values did change

considerably.

 

 

Be a lamp onto yourself,

 

Jan

 

ºNamaste,

º

ºOmkara / Tim