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>The Buddha didn't found Buddhism either. When the Buddha was roaming

>the country, many "attained" nirvana (substratum remaining) because of he

>himself being the perfect example of the teaching. And then, the issue

>that the

>abandoned wife and child became disciples. Try that with an abandoned wife

>now... She will probably shoot you at first sight :)

>That shows the "evolution" of selfishness... Whereas no-self is "the"

issue...

>Hence the many splits after the Buddha passed into parinirvana...

>Hence the limited value of many ancient scriptures - human values did change

>considerably.

 

Hi Jan,

Many human values change because of the scriptures

which are re-modulated.

Are there modern teachings that you consider of value?

What are they?

 

Lobster

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At 21:47 30/04/01 +1000, you wrote:

>The true teacher cannot teach you anything ..

>

> but can only re-mind you

> of that

> which on some level

> you already know

>

>cw

 

 

Thanks Chris,

This too is the purpose of satsangh

to be reminded

of what our teachers

and our deeper knowlede

know

 

Lobster

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On 4/27/01 at 6:07 AM Lobster wrote:

 

[...]

º

ºHi Jan,

ºMany human values change because of the scriptures

ºwhich are re-modulated.

ºAre there modern teachings that you consider of value?

ºWhat are they?

º

ºLobster

 

Hi Lobster,

 

That's a good question - what would be the mark of a valuable teaching?

Not having needed any teaching myself, that could be seen as that life

itself is the teaching.

 

Another measure is to look at the effects of a teaching on the students -

how it effects their way of living, their way of expressing themselves

and their outlook on life and fellow creatures.

 

Regarding modern teachings, I don't know any at all :)

"Man know thyself" in many variations - that has always been the teaching.

The difference has been in the "interconnectedness of all life forms"

issue as to prevent "I and my liberation" type of ego-trippers

from deluding themselves and harming others.

 

 

Jan

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