Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 ========= That question implies another one: "Are humans rational beings?" ======= Hi Jan, Friends, I suppose there are parts of us that are rational and parts that are not. In a sense moving into an increasingly rational and objective viewpoint that is less effected by individual irrationality would allow us to connect and reside in . . . Where exactly? ;-) ========= The similarity becomes striking when "humanness" no longer is a limiting factor. ======= :-) ======== Doesn't the term 'maturing' imply the speed issue? From that perspective, what can be observed is between stagnation / deepening insight. ===== Is any condition of 'arrival' a stagnation? Is the deepening insight a continuity not an arrival? What is the right pace for maturing? Lobster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 On 4/27/01 at 6:49 PM Lobster wrote: º========= ºThat question implies another one: º"Are humans rational beings?" º======= º ºHi Jan, Friends, ºI suppose there are parts of ºus that are rational and parts that ºare not. ºIn a sense moving into an increasingly ºrational and objective viewpoint ºthat is less effected by individual ºirrationality would allow us ºto connect and reside in . . . ºWhere exactly? ;-) Nowhere - my favorite holiday resort :-) [...] º º======== ºDoesn't the term 'maturing' imply the speed ºissue? From that perspective, what can be ºobserved is between stagnation / deepening insight. º===== º ºIs any condition of 'arrival' a stagnation? A condition of ignorance could be seen as stagnation too. But from another perspective, the thread always continues so there is no stagnation. And from still another perspective, the process of threads starting and ending is a continuity so nothing really is happening. Knowing all perspectives effectively causes one to shut up as all perspectives lead to 'nowhere' ºIs the deepening insight a continuity not an arrival? Considering that relative knowledge is infinite, insight could grow forever. ºWhat is the right pace for maturing? Doesn't that question presuppose there is such a thing as 'right pace for maturing'? Jan ºLobster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 >Considering that relative knowledge is infinite, >insight could grow forever. Hi Jan, Would you describe that as a process of ripening? >ºWhat is the right pace for maturing? > >Doesn't that question presuppose there is >such a thing as 'right pace for maturing'? > >Jan :-) It also presupposes that there is such a thing as a process of continuity. Of growth of movement from and to. Now that may not be. But I presume you are talking about nothing and I suppose you know why? This dilemma between expressing movement and not going anywhere may sound strange but how else but in silence can it be said well? Lobster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 - Lobster Friday, April 27, 2001 9:49 AM is deepening insight a continuity not an arrival? =========That question implies another one:"Are humans rational beings?"=======Take a look around, do human beings act rational?------Hi Jan, Friends,I suppose there are parts ofus that are rational and parts thatare not.In a sense moving into an increasinglyrational and objective viewpointthat is less effected by individualirrationality would allow usto connect and reside in . . .Where exactly? ;-)-------------how about somewhere we have never been? ----------------=========The similarity becomes striking when "humanness"no longer is a limiting factor.=======---------------yes, we have used up just about all of our excuses haven't we? -----:-)========Doesn't the term 'maturing' imply the speedissue? From that perspective, what can beobserved is between stagnation / deepening insight.=====---------------the deepening insight is just the other side of stagnation, isn't it?-----Is any condition of 'arrival' a stagnation?-------------------could very well be!-------------------------Is the deepening insight a continuity not an arrival?---------- Now I think you've hit the nail on the head -------------------------------- What is the right pace for maturing?--------that's a damn good question you seafood delicacy, I'd say when the shell turns a bright red color, Yep, time to dine! nice questions my brother the lobster, Walt-----------------------------Lobster/join All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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