Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 Namaste All, Unfortunately most of the problems with people's thinking stems from the fact that most were monkeys and animals until recently. Prior to 9,000 BC there was a large population of monkey or ape people, some had tails. According to Edgar Cayce, also these being are well described in the Indian Ramayana from 20,000 years ago and other Puranas. It seems with reincarnation, Cayce says at least four births, and with genetic engineering and removal of appendages etc, present human man was put together. This was done over a period of several hundred years up to 9,000 BC. Unfortunately the big brain has never really been used, as there was not much previous experience or tendencies. This accounts for the great animal tendencies at the same time as having a larger more intelligent brain. Just still monkeys thats all!!!!! Up until this time human man was much larger in stature than the present race. Om Namah Sivaya.....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 One thing 'bout monkeys... They are expert imitators and certainly aren't oringinal enough to come up with bull pucky like this. David (monkey see, monkey doo doo) , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: > Namaste All, > > Unfortunately most of the problems with people's thinking stems from > the fact that most were monkeys and animals until recently. > Prior to 9,000 BC there was a large population of monkey or ape > people, some had tails. According to Edgar Cayce, also these being are > well described in the Indian Ramayana from 20,000 years ago and other > Puranas. > > It seems with reincarnation, Cayce says at least four births, and with > genetic engineering and removal of appendages etc, present human man > was put together. This was done over a period of several > hundred years up to 9,000 BC. Unfortunately the big brain has never > really been used, as there was not much previous experience or > tendencies. This accounts for the great animal tendencies at the same > time as having a larger more intelligent brain. Just still monkeys > thats all!!!!! > > Up until this time human man was much larger in stature than the > present race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 Hi >Unfortunately most of the problems with people's thinking stems from >the fact that most were monkeys and animals until recently. Is that what it is!!!!! I'm so glad to know that! It explains so much!! <scratch, scratch> So when I have trouble with a meditation class, I'll just remember that it's composed of something like a Jew, a Christian, a Buddhist, and 14 or 15 recent monkeys or dogs, etc. Maybe if I hunker down and look them in the eyes and rub noses? Would that help? Maybe sign language would work better? The chimps take to it well. Thanks again... <scratch, scratch> this is really enlightening! )) Have some more tea? Grateful Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: > It seems with reincarnation, Cayce says at least four births, and with > genetic engineering and removal of appendages etc, present human man > was put together. This was done over a period of several > hundred years up to 9,000 BC. Unfortunately the big brain has never > really been used, as there was not much previous experience or > tendencies. This accounts for the great animal tendencies at the same > time as having a larger more intelligent brain. Just still monkeys > thats all!!!!! > poor tony :-( too much on the brain spazbo sez: hey tony! keep you baloney! loose baloney maby some help for tony too much on the brain needs operation no doctors from atlantis in house too bad for tony bye bye done now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 On 5/2/01 at 2:28 AM david.bozzi wrote: ºOne thing 'bout monkeys... ºThey are expert imitators ºand certainly aren't oringinal enough ºto come up ºwith bull pucky like this. º ºDavid º(monkey see, monkey doo doo) Hi David - perhaps it all depends on how "mystick" is spelled <laugh> Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 , david.bozzi@n... wrote: > One thing 'bout monkeys... > They are expert imitators > and certainly aren't oringinal enough > to come up > with bull pucky like this. > > David > (monkey see, monkey doo doo) Namste All, Unfortunately with the standardisation of the human form, one couldn't tell anymore which was a human and which was a human animal soul. The descendents of the Adamic souls had to use the same bodies as the animal and human animal souls. The only way to tell was by spirituality and behaviour. Adamics followed, as it says in the Bible, a vegetarian diet and were spiritual in nature. The animal souls were meat eaters and didn't really follow a spiritual path, although some followed idols, such as Baal etc. This can be reflected today in the obvious underdevelopement of most people who are meat eaters, materialists, with only a limited spirituality. These are the human animals, with barely any development of their vijnanamayakos or awareness sheath. The Adamic descendents and those with developed awareness sheaths can also be identified. IQ has nothing to do with it, normal human intelligence is still in the lower mind, genius or not. ONS Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 , David Bozzi <david.bozzi@n...> wrote: > jb wrote: > > > Hi David - perhaps it all depends on how "mystick" is spelled <laugh> > > LOL! > Namaste, Sri Lakshmana Swami a direct disciple of Ramana and realised in his presence says; Most of the people he sees were animals in their last lives. There was even a monkey that used to come for darhshan and worship....ONS Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 jb wrote: > Hi David - perhaps it all depends on how "mystick" is spelled <laugh> LOL! NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 Hi Tony, >Unfortunately with the standardisation of the human form, one couldn't >tell anymore which was a human and which was a human animal soul. >snip< >The only way to tell was by spirituality and behaviour. >snip< >This can be reflected today in the obvious underdevelopement of most >people who are meat eaters, materialists, with only a limited >spirituality. These are the human animals, "You are what you eat," huh? Ludwig Feuerbach said it first... have you read him? Was it the Germans he said could be understood by their high consumption of beans? Do you eat a lot of beans, Tony? ) Dharma the Potato-Chip and Chocolate Eater (and Tuna, alas!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 On 5/2/01 at 3:41 PM Tony O'Clery wrote: [...] ºNamaste, º ºSri Lakshmana Swami a direct disciple of Ramana and realised in his ºpresence says; Most of the people he sees were animals in their last ºlives. There was even a monkey that used to come for darhshan and ºworship....ONS Those stories are well known and there are many books on the topic, like those of Max Heindel. For some, they have a racist ring as they also cover "evolution through the races" and, no surprise, "whiter is better". It is rather simple: unless "awake", man is an animal with moral, ethics, esthetics, compassion and love utilitarian, and less than skin-deep. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 Hi Lobster, A very small point... >(incidently there is no evidence for Atlantis - none >- it was a fairy story - traded everywhere >- nothing remains - funny that - like most myths) The first written account that we know of comes from Plato (Socrates); who said it came from Solon, the law-giver of Athens; who said he got it from the priests of Sais in Egypt; who told him that the Greeks were "as children in their knowledge of the history of the world." Plato placed Atlantis in the Atlantic Ocean, "beyond the pillars of Hercules," which was Gibraltar. Edgar Cayce said that parts of Atlantis would begin to rise in a certain year... my memory fails me as to what year. But I saw in a book pictures taken off the coast of Bimini, in the Caribbean. The pictures show extensive lines of large stones, just under the water but clearly visible from a plane. These were first noticed in the year that Cayce named, which leads people in the area - who had flown over there before - to think that the sea floor had risen in that area. When I was on the copy desk of a city newspaper (late '70s and early '80s), we used to read the wires (AP and UP) while waiting for more copy. I remember when there was a flurry of stories about a Soviet submarine that reported seeing and photographing extensive ruins... stone walls and such... somewhere in the Atlantic. The Soviets wouldn't say where the sub was, but they said it would be in port in a few days and the photographs would be released to the world. Then suddenly the stories stopped, and I never heard anything else about it. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 On 5/3/01 at 8:05 AM Lobster wrote: ºSufi terminology utilises the idea ºthat a developed woman saint becomes 'A Man'. ºSexism? ºPerhaps. Doesn't that depend on how to read "man"? Either a male or a human being (no gender issue emphasized). ºThe Buddha was very reluctant to allow women into the Sangha? ºSexism? ºPerhaps. Perhaps women are "liberated" already <laugh>. ºOccult theory postulates that black Atlanteans º(incidently there is no evidence for Atlantis - none º- it was a fairy story - traded everywhere º- nothing remains - funny that - like most myths) ºhad white slaves. The recent enslavement of black people ºwas karmic retribution. ºRacism? ºPerhaps. Perhaps a statement that slavery is independent of race, caste and creed. º(Max Heindal is the Rosicrucian rascist?) ºPerhaps it should be realised that Moses ºmay have been a better chiseler than God. Do you know Moses well enough to be sure of that? ºThat Koran writers are less than literate. º(It is interesting that - if you look at a chronologically ºrevealed Koran - it develops in maturity º- much as one might expect Muhamad to do) But at least they were literate enough to read and write ºThe idea that all parts of a 'teaching' and 'teacher' ºare complete and perfect - that no culture, social, ºbiological, conditioned responses remain ºmay amuse and inspire our fantasy . . . Doesn't that require perceiving teaching and teacher? ºSome people try and fulfill that fantasy º(if they are able to condition themselves to do so). ºThe genuine guru (according to my conditioning) ºdoes not provide empty platitudes ºbut situations and questions. And how would one recognize a "genuine guru"? The term by itself is suggestive that there are other gurus which would contradict the term "guru". ºThe Sat Guru is regarded as more important ºthan God because they lead us to God. That sounds familiar - someone dedicated a poem to the guru precisely for that reason. ºGod it seems is incapable. ºPerhaps so. Perhaps God doesn't have any motive to lead to Him because there is nothing but God <laugh>. ºHow we react and the answers we find ºthat all depends on our condition ºand receptivity . . . "No more questions arising" is a pretty satisfying answer. º º ºLobster Condition For some, a delicacy Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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