Speaking carefully, was: I'm told I'm not realised so here is the Buddha et al,

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

>Apart from this Jesus was an Essene

 

I also think Jesus was an Essene, but this is not known to us from

historical records. It would be helpful... and might prevent some of the

controversy here... if you would be a little more careful in your writing,

if you would distinguish among:

 

1) what is a matter of historical record;

2) what seems a likely conclusion, knowing other historical records, i.e.

what we know of the Essenes;

3) what comes from empirical testing and/or research, ie. surveys, medical

research, archeological discoveries;

4) what comes from Cayce and others who may be tapping into universal

knowledge;

5) what comes through a medium or channeler, including yourself if that is so;

6) what comes from legend and myth; and

7) what comes from the written personal experience, wisdom, or opinions of

others, including the source's name and area of expertise, where possible;

8) what is a matter of your own personal experience or opinion,

distinguishing between them; and

9) whatever other categories I have missed. )

 

It is the apparent confusion of these... what seems like taking myth or

channeling to be of equal value with historical record or empirical

testing... that causes a problem for me, and perhaps for others.

>and the 'last supper', was the

>normal ceremonial meal or agape.

 

Possible... but we _know_ that it was a Passover seder.

>Jesus also spent many years in

>India and Tibet, Leh.

 

This again is NOT a matter of historical record. I for one would be

interested in a run-down of who says it was so... the source of

information and his/her background, record, reputation, credibility... this

is important. I think Cayce said Jesus was in India, not sure about Tibet.

I don't reject it... I just want to be clear on sources, what is

historical or archeological record and what isn't.

 

Love,

Dharma

[Guest guest]

, Dharma <deva@L...> wrote:

> Hi Tony,

>

> >Apart from this Jesus was an Essene

>

> I also think Jesus was an Essene, but this is not known to us from

> historical records. It would be helpful... and might prevent some

of the

> controversy here... if you would be a little more careful in your

writing,

> if you would distinguish among:

>

> 1) what is a matter of historical record;

> 2) what seems a likely conclusion, knowing other historical records,

i.e.

> what we know of the Essenes;

> 3) what comes from empirical testing and/or research, ie. surveys,

medical

> research, archeological discoveries;

> 4) what comes from Cayce and others who may be tapping into

universal

> knowledge;

> 5) what comes through a medium or channeler, including yourself if

that is so;

> 6) what comes from legend and myth; and

> 7) what comes from the written personal experience, wisdom, or

opinions of

> others, including the source's name and area of expertise, where

possible;

> 8) what is a matter of your own personal experience or opinion,

> distinguishing between them; and

> 9) whatever other categories I have missed. )

>

> It is the apparent confusion of these... what seems like taking

myth or

> channeling to be of equal value with historical record or empirical

> testing... that causes a problem for me, and perhaps for others.

>

> >and the 'last supper', was the

> >normal ceremonial meal or agape.

>

> Possible... but we _know_ that it was a Passover seder.

>

> >Jesus also spent many years in

> >India and Tibet, Leh.

>

> This again is NOT a matter of historical record. I for one would be

> interested in a run-down of who says it was so... the source of

> information and his/her background, record, reputation,

credibility... this

> is important. I think Cayce said Jesus was in India, not sure about

Tibet.

> I don't reject it... I just want to be clear on sources, what is

> historical or archeological record and what isn't.

>

> Love,

> Dharma

 

Namaste,

 

Divine Life Society have records/book of the visit of Jesus or St Issa

to Himis, in Leh which is a Tibetan part of Kashmir, India. Also

Nicholas Roerich wrote of Notavitches visit to Himis and reading the

records of Jesus's visit and life.

Of course Cayce's reading gel with these material facts.

 

It is evident if one looks particularly at Catholism and the Early

Church to see that Essenes and Christians were very 'similar'. Same

agape, same non violence, same greetings. There are Buddhist records

on this from the Emperor Asoka also. The Dead Sea scrolls are also

revealing much.

Again Cayce confirms much that has been discovered and more.

 

I trust Cayce a lot, mainly because I cross referenced a lot, in other

scriptures and puranas. In fact his work on Karma helped me a lot when

I got into Vedanta in the early days. No I don't channel and I am not

into it. It is mostly unenlightened spirits and pretas. Cayce read the

Akashic Record, that is something different.

 

I did regress though, sometimes with my daughters and sometimes

spontaneously. After a while, I stopped for I could see no point. I

confirmed some questions about my past lives but I have enough

problems with this one without worrying about past ones.

 

Om Namah Sivaya,,,Tony.