Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 I agree with what you say below. It's also the case that the meat wasn't filled with injected hormones and anti-biotics, and the animals were free to live before they were killed. Not cooped up in dull pens, or in the case of veal, made to live in the tinyest space so no exercise will occur, lessening the value of the meat. And there is evidence (especially from living cultures of the past 200 years), that meat in most societies wasn't an everyday or twice a day thing. The hunt was often a highly ritualized affair, and the occasion of meat, if the hunt was successful, was quite celebratory. It's interesting to think about this. If eating meat was a common thing, there would be no need to make such a celebratory ritual. Eating a small amount of meat protein, combined with the meat being clear of toxins, is much different from the meat habits and access we have today. But I agree. I think our bodies are quite capable of handling meat and have been forever (human forever). Just can't handle 21st century constant chemical meat. I also think that more meat was eaten in colder climes, and a lot of dairy too. I think people's bodies from those gene pools probably handle a lot of meat better than people from climates where more fish and fruit were eaten. Barg <<No fruitarian, or even vegan, hunter-gatherer societies have ever been found. Further, there is no evidence to indicate there ever existed, in the past, a fruitarian (or veg*n) hunter-gatherer society. Even in the tropical rainforest, hunter-gatherers eat meat. (The Ache of Paraguay in the Amazon rainforest, one of the best-studied of all hunter-gatherer tribes, are a prime example with an average of over 50% meat consumption throughout the year, ranging from 47-77% depending on the season [Hill, Hawkes, Hurtado, and Kaplan 1984].) There is no evidence of any fruitarian societies, and--more to the point--the extensive anecdotal evidence (virtually the only evidence available) on modern attempts at (strict) fruitarianism indicates that it may work for a short while but almost always fails in the long run. (Even the fruitarian extremist "experts" often fail to follow the diet strictly, in the long term.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 They wrote:= > > <<No fruitarian, or even vegan, hunter-gatherer societies have ever been found. > Further, there is no evidence to indicate > there ever existed, in the past, a fruitarian (or veg*n) hunter-gatherer > society. Even in the tropical rainforest, hunter-gatherers > eat meat. (The Ache of Paraguay in the Amazon rainforest, one of the > best-studied of all hunter-gatherer tribes, are a prime > example with an average of over 50% meat consumption throughout the year, > ranging from 47-77% depending on the season > [Hill, Hawkes, Hurtado, and Kaplan 1984].) There is no evidence of any > fruitarian societies, and--more to the point--the > extensive anecdotal evidence (virtually the only evidence available) on > modern attempts at (strict) fruitarianism indicates that it > may work for a short while but almost always fails in the long run. (Even the > fruitarian extremist "experts" often fail to follow the > diet strictly, in the long term.) Namaste All, The point is being 'aware', of another part of oneself's suffering, namely the animal. That is the point of spiritual veges, not strictly health. It is about the rise of conscious awareness, in the awareness sheath. In 10 million years the hunter gathering hominids were not the 'civilised', humans. Om Namah Sivaya...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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