Guest guest Posted May 7, 2001 Report Share Posted May 7, 2001 Student: When I'm sitting in the garden, or on an airplane, there is a sense of...there is consciousness, stillness. And thoughts pass through, and people, and there is no problem. Jean Klein: Because in stillness, in consciousness, there is nobody. For whom could it be a problem? The problem appears the moment you establish a personal relationship with the situation. When the situation is convenient for you, you identify yourself with it. And when it is not, you push it away. Convenient and not convenient belong to the mind. Alors, what is the question? Student: The question is, in stillness there is no question. In activity, as the day goes on and one speaks with others or reads or does other activities, there seems to be an identification which takes place. Sometimes suddenly there is an awareness that identification has taken place. And then there is stillness again. My question is that it seems so strange that identification takes place after the fact. I don't understand why that movement continues. Sometimes it seems to be a habit, sometimes it seems to be something else. Because the stillness seems to be the natural state. Jean Klein: In other words, how can we be this stillness permanently? Student: Yes. Jean Klein: It is only when you see the mechanism, how you function, that you become aware that you take yourself for somebody. The person comes into the play; the mind splits into positive and negative, pleasure and pain, and so on and the reflex comes up to be somebody, to take yourself for what you are not. Then there is object to object relationship, relationship from personality to personality. Then there is a problem, because this object lives for security, recognition, and the need to be loved. There is only the asking, demanding. At first you will see the conflict, the identification and, at the end, you will catch it before the reflex comes up. >From "Transmssion of the Flame". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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