Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 [Reposted with permission by S.] > >Dharma <deva >Mon, 7 May 2001 18:57:08 -0700 >Re: Re: Mandatory-III > >Hi S., > >snip< >> And this is _exactly_ the line that I am turning around with my concern. >>God is "incomplete" without I. But I am not God. I and God. God thru I. >>I thru God >> >>But then we also have the "I Am That". Which sound the same as Jesus saying >>"I am the Alpha and the Omega". Both sound to me as I am God. > >Jesus also said, "Before Abraham was, I am." > >> There is a fundamental distintion in all of that and I did not fully >>grasp it yet. I just know that a pure and dry "I Am God" do not "vibrate" >>well in me. > >Then don't say it. It isn't important whether you can say that. What >is important is to realize that the divine is not "out there" somewhere, >something apart from yourself. The divine is to be found within you. > >Actually, for some people there is a danger in "I am God," as Carl Jung >pointed out. Sometimes a man sees this tremendous energy that is God as >outside of himself, and then he realizes that he is of the nature of God... >and thinks "I am God"... and pulls that energy into his personality, and >his ego balloons! ) This is ego inflation... I think we've all seen >examples of that on the net. > >What do you mean by "God"? In meditation I find level on level on level... >I work to become acquainted with a new high level, to make contact more >easily, to have better communication with that. And then I sense beyond it >another, higher level. I sometimes think that what most people mean by God >is the highest level of which they are aware. > >But what is meant by "THAT" or "the All" is not any level... it is >completely other. To find it you have to break through... or fall >through... the levels entirely, into the All. > >There is no way to say anything about THAT that is adequate. Everything we >say is of the nature of metaphor and symbol... and completely inadequate. >That is because in the All there is nothing... nothing in particular... >no words, no symbols, nothing in particular. And everything is there... >in potential. It is the Ground of Being, it is THAT from which the >universe is born and into which it dies again... at every instant. And >since we can communicate only in words and metaphor and symbols, we cannot >communicate that experience. Everything I have said here is symbolic and >inadequate. Within Christianity, the best word I find for it is "the >Godhead." > >Am I God? Are you God? When you go into the All, you are all and >everywhere... you are THAT... there is nothing there but pure >potentiality... and nothing that is not you... and yet you do not lose >yourself... you are not dissipated and lost... your focus of awareness, >that point that fell or dived into the All, comes back knowing what it is, >what we are. And again, saying this is not adequate... all words and >symbol and metaphor for what is not expressible in those terms... or in >any terms. > >But after that, the world is transformed. Because you remember... you >know... everything is epiphany... every thing shows forth the glory. >(Words and metaphor again. > >I recommend to you the writings of Pere Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Jesuit >paleontologist and geologist, scientist and author... "the greatest >synthetic mind since Aquinas," one reviewer said. He is best known for his >_The Phenomenon of Man_, but I suggest his book _Hymn of the Universe_. >Partly poetry, it is glorious in English translation... it must be more >wonderful in the original French. > >>Let us leave the surface and, without leaving the world, plunge into God. >>There, and from there, in him and through him we shall hold all things and >>have command of all things, we shall find again the essence and the >>splendour of all the flowers, the lights, we have had to surrender here >>and now in order to be faithful to life. Those beings whom here and now we >>despair of ever reaching and influencing, they too will be there, united >>together at that central point in their being which is at once the most >>vulnerable, the most receptive and the most enriching. There, even the >>least of our desires and our endeavours will be gathered and preserved, >>and be >>able to evoke instantaneous vibration from the very heart of the universe. >> Let us then establish ourselves in the divine milieu. > >I'll post a longer excerpt separately. Enjoy. > >Love, >Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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