Paradises and other planes in the mind.

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Namaste All,

 

I had an experience some years ago and since then I have 'travelled',

on different occasions to visit recently 'dead', people etc. It seems

that I can do this at will consciously with some preparation. We all

do things like this when we sleep of course. I don't experience this

in meditation for I by-pass these planes instantaneously, as most of

us into meditation do. I posted here an extract from a talk I gave on

another subject.

 

 

 

One morning in Brisbane I awoke to find myself kneeling beside my

body. I was examining my skin, which I thought clammy. I was

particularly interested on a wiggly wart. The sun is hot in Australia

and some people get wiggly warts. I can hardly say that this was a

spiritual experience though,unless you find wiggly warts spiritual. I

then realised that it was seven o'clock and I had to get up. As soon

as I thought this I was back in my body and I awoke.

 

Another time, I was in India and had a similar experience. I haven't

publically talked about this since, for obvious reasons. I had just

returned to my room in the middle of the day and was lying on my

mattress. As I was relaxing,a little Yogi appeared in the room, in

his subtle body. He was very old, balding and dressed in a raggy

brown sort of a robe. I wondered what he was doing there, he didn't

speak but communicated telepathically. He said "touch me here,

indicating his right back shoulder". I don't know whether I was in the

body or out of it, but I touched his shoulder, and as soon as I did a

fantastic experience took place. I went up through all kind of

planes, seeing all kind of forms,(some fantastic and mishapen etc),

until we reached a plane where everything was coloured energy and

extremeley blissful. I knew these coloured energies were beings. Then

I continued up until I lost consciousness.

I then realised I was on my mattress but knew I had been to a high

plane that I had no memory of.

 

The point of this illustration being, if you are out of the body you

can't be the body. Also going to 'Heaven', is no real goal ultimately,

moksha or merging with the Universal is.

 

The Astral is really all form of some kind, the lower four of the

seven being the lower planes. The higher being the paradises.

Next come the mental planes, of which the top three, out of seven,

are amorphous and not forms as we would know it but energies. It is

really all one but our minds divide them up into planes.

 

The border plane of immediately after death, I hadn't mentioned. For

this Bardo or border plane is really only temporary and in my

experience. When I have been talking to people who have died, they

usually only spend a few days here. Invariable when I go back to find

them, I only find a shell hanging there mouth open.( the second

death). Then I have to go up to the plane they are at, if I wish to

communicate with them. Some were higher and some lower, some had built

world's more or less like this one, some were in some kind of

schooling, and some above all that.

 

This is all part and parcel of the total mind, and we have to rise

above all this experience, and incarnations, sooner or later.

 

So when I 'die', I really don't want to go to 'Heaven', I can go there

now...The most it can offer me is a captive Bliss.....Om Namah

Sivaya...Tony.