Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 Pada III 36. As the result of this experience and meditation, the higher hearing, touch, sight, taste and smell are developed, producing intuitional knowledge. Through meditation the aspirant becomes aware of the counterparts of the five senses as they are found in the subtler realms, and through their awakening and conscious use he becomes able to function as freely on the inner planes as he does on the physical. He can then serve intelligently in those realms and cooperate with the great evolutionary scheme. [There is much more here, with lists of the siddhis as they appear on various planes, in correspondence with the 5 senses. I can upload it if someone would like to see it.] 37. These powers are obstacles to the highest spiritual realization, but serve as magical powers in the objective worlds. One fact continuously emerges in this text book of spiritual development, and that is, that the psychic powers, higher and lower, are hindrances to the highest spiritual state and must be left behind by the man who can function freed from the three worlds altogether. This is a hard lesson for the aspirant to grasp. He is apt to think that a tendency towards clairvoyance or clairaudience is indicative of progress and a sign that his practice of meditation is beginning to take effect. It might prove just the opposite and inevitably will, should the aspirant be attracted by, or attached to, any of these forms of psychic faculty. An old Hindu writer says in connection with these powers: "A mind whose mind stuff is emergent thinks highly of these perfections, just as a man born in misery considers even a small bit of wealth a pile of wealth. But a yogin whose mind-stuff is concentrated must avoid these perfections, even when brought near to him. One who longs for the final goal of life, the absolute assuagement of the threefold anguish, how could he have any affection for those perfections which go counter to the attainment of that goal." Dvivedi says: "The occult powers described hitherto and to be described hereafter... serve as obstacles because they become the cause of distracting the mind by the various feelings they excite. But they are not quite useless inasmuch as they are great powers for good in moments when samadhi is suspended." It is of value to the aspirant to know what these powers are, how to control them and not be controlled by them, and how to use them in the service of his brother and of the Hierarchy, but they must be regarded as instruments and be relegated to the form side. It must be realised that they are the qualities or capacities of the sheaths or the _form_ aspect, otherwise they will assume undue importance, engross undue attention and prove stumbling blocks to the progress of soul unfoldment.* 50. By a passionless attitude towards this attainment and towards all soul-powers, the one who is free from the seeds of bondage, attains the condition of isolated unity. The isolated unity referred to here is that of complete separation from all form aspects and the achievement of spiritual Oneness. It is aloofness from the material consciousness and a living in the spiritual consciousness. It is harmony with the spirit and disharmony with matter. It involves identification with the Father in Heaven, and a true understanding of the word of the Master of all the Masters, "I and My Father are one." A proper sense of values has been established and the powers which have been developed, and the perceptions which have been gained are seen as having in them the "seeds of bondage" and therefore with them the true yogin does not concern himself. At will and in service he will perceive that which is needed; at will and in service he will employ the occult powers, but he himself remains detached, and freed from all karmic limitations.** Pada IV 1. The higher and lower siddhis (or powers) are gained by incarnation, or by drugs, words of power, intense desire or by meditation. 25. The state of isolated unity (withdrawn into the true nature of the Self) is the reward of the man who can discriminate between the mind stuff and the Self, or spiritual man. 26. The mind then tends towards discrimination and increasing illumination as to the true nature of the one Self. - Patanjali, _Yoga Sutras_, translation by DK, commentary by Alice A. Bailey with help from DK, in _The Light of the Soul_ by Alice A. Bailey. ------------ *Pada III 38. TE SAMADHAV UPASARGA VYUTTHANE SIDDHAYAH. Te = these siddhis; samadhav = for samadhi; upasarga = obstacles; vyutthane = in worldly pursuits; siddhayah = powers. These [superphysical senses] are obstacles to [nirbija] samadhi but are siddhis (powers or accomplishments) in the worldly pursuits. [No commentary.] ** 51. TAD VAIRAGYAD API DOSA BIJA KSAYE KAIVALYAM. Tad = that; vairagyat = by non-attachment; api = even; dosha bija = seed of bondage; kshaye = destroyed; kaivalyam = independence. By non-attachment even to that [all these siddhis], the seed of bondage is destroyed and thus follows Kaivalya (Independence). This means that all these _siddhis_ are beautiful, but they will bind us, because _siddhis_ are the outcome of mind. The mind wants something. It wants to achieve this or that. What for? To be proud of itself. It develops ego. It makes your "I" and "mine" bigger. Selfish desires are still there. If you are after _siddhis_ like astral traveling, clairvoyance and clairaudience, I ask you why. You may say, "Oh, I thought I could help people." I say that this is just an excuse. You want to show you can do something. You want to be proud of it. Are the _siddhis_ bad then? If so, why are they there? I say they are not bad. They are beautiful; they are good. When? When _they_ come to _you_. When you run after them they are bad. That's all the difference. Let the _siddhis_ come and beg, "Hey, can't I do something for you?" Then they are beautiful. If you don't run after them and you don't crave them, they are not yours. They want to have you as theirs. They want to be with you and serve you. Then they are okay. That's why, even in the Bible, you come across these powers. Everything will come to you. When? When you seek the Kingdom. "Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven; everything else will be added unto you." You don't need to run after them one by one. When you become the boss, you get everything. You don't need to run after small jobs. Not only these _vibhuti_, these _siddhis_, are like that, but everything is like that: beauty, money, power, strength, scientific knowledge. All these things are becoming terrible, and the whole world is trembling with fear. Why? Because we have not sought God first. What is God? Peace, contentment, egolessness. So, we are not really condemning _siddhis_. They are God's powers, by-products of the search for Him. Let them come after you. When your mind is that clean and calm, then you will be able to handle them well for good purposes, not for your ego. You won't be beating your own drum, "Oh, I can do this; I can do that." _Siddhis_ are not for that. Patanjali clearly explains these things, because as a scientist he has to place the facts before his students. But it is not that he is encouraging you to acquire _siddhis_. That is the beauty of Patanjali. He is not hiding anything. He says, "These are all the possibilities, no doubt, but don't run after them. You may get hurt by them. Let them run after you." - _The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali_, translation and commentary by Sri Swami Satchidananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2001 Report Share Posted May 15, 2001 Hi Vicki, >Thank you for this . Although I am not going to learn walking on water (!), Well, I did a search on the only translation I have in my computer, and I found nothing about walking on water! I wonder if many people think that's the sort of thing Patanjali is all about. He wrote the first known text/record on Raja Yoga. As far as I know, this is the root from which all the other yogas have grown and branched out. He says in the beginning that it is about meditation, about acheiving control of the modifications of the mind-stuff. It is a densely packed little book and thus someone's commentary is very helpful, but most translations you would buy come with a commentary. He does explain carefully how to do many things... some may not sound to you like he's talking about siddhis at all, even when he mentions "the power to...." Some sound almost unbelievable, but I have found that some things I used to think were incredible really do happen. Here is a sample passage - just the verses without commentary: > BOOK II > > 30. Harmlessness, truth to all beings, abstention from theft, > from incontinence and from avarice, constitute yama or the five > commandments. > 31. Yama (or the five commandments) constitutes the universal > duty and is irrespective of race, place, time or emergency. > 32. Internal and external purification, contentment, fiery > aspiration, spiritual reading and devotion to Ishvara constitutes. > nijama (or the five rules). > 33. When thoughts which are contrary to yoga are present there > should be the cultivation of their opposite. > 34. Thoughts contrary to yoga are harmfulness, falsehood, theft, > incontinence, and avarice, whether committed personally, caused to > be committed or approved of, whether arising from avarice, anger > or delusion (ignorance); whether slight in the doing, middling or > great. These result always in excessive pain and ignorance. For > this reason, the contrary thoughts must be cultivated. > 35. In the presence of him who has perfected harmlessness, all > enmity ceases. > 36. When truth to all beings is perfected, the effectiveness of > his words and acts is immediately to be seen. > 37. When abstention from theft is perfected, the yogi can have > whatever he desires. > 38. By abstention from incontinence, energy is acquired. > 39. When abstention from avarice is perfected, there comes an > understanding of the law of rebirth. These last five verses may not seem to be about gifts or powers or siddhis... but read them closely. He speaks of the results of doing certain things... and that is how he always speaks of what people may call siddhis. What many people think of as "psychic gifts" are the higher correspondences to the five senses... I'll send separately the text and commentary I have on that verse. >I enjoyed reading your post on Patanjali , Thanks. I especially enjoy Satchidananda. DK goes into incredible detail, almost more than you wanted to know. )) But Satchidananda's commentary comes from recordings of him talking to groups of people... and he speaks simply and plainly. He's so down to earth... and uses lots of stories that anyone can understand. Unfortunately, for some verses he just doesn't give any commentary at all. If I had the money and the time, I would like to have many translations and commentaries and be able to compare them all... but I don't have the money or the time. ) Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2001 Report Share Posted May 15, 2001 Hey Vicki, >Oh,oh,oh! >What have I done again! >Didn't I warn you that I answer short answers? Be cool, friend! You didn't do anything wrong. It's good to answer spontaneously. >snip< >means that I personally find no interest >in acquiring siddhis , I do hope you're not trying to fight them off! ) That would be another kind of attachment, you know? Another kind of block... I mean, what if Ramana wanted to speak to you? Would you say, "No, no, no!! I would have to use a siddhi for that... I can't do that!" No, I think you would just listen. >I was talking about myself >in that sentence , not about Patanjali ! , >that's all it is about, I know. It's just that you caused me to wonder if Patanjali was getting some kind of rep as the guy who talks about siddhis... so I wanted to say that that stuff is an incidental part of his book. Don't worry, be happy. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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