Guest guest Posted May 17, 2001 Report Share Posted May 17, 2001 Dear all and everybody, Someone wrote: > Each life we live as individuals, if we manage to reach a certain level of > awareness, this level is carried over into our next life. ? "Hold it, hold it!" I say here smilingly. Before you make too strong a decision on this... All of us at some point will discover that the idea of personally owned past and next lives is a fallacy... LIFE works totally different... I have unfortunately still no time (writing software stuff still) to get into this deeper.. so please hold your question for a while... > Also..... do we choose our lives? I am wondering... Same thing here... LIFE does not work that way. The answer lies somewhere in the region of: 1. *Anything that can happen has happened, is happening or will happen.* This also means that any variation on 'being a human' has, will be and is at some point lived, sequential and coincidental, parallel as well as perpendicular (so to say), obtusely and acutely. Time wise in reverse as well as forwards, etc... Time is not a one dimensional something, just like space is not... The order in this is purely random and statistical (a beautiful law) according to a beautiful law that 'chaos theory' is discovering. 2. Another part of the answer lies in the neighbourhood of the scientific idea of parallel multiple universes... This will fully solve the question of multiple lives scientifically. The full answer seems initially complex but once known it is extremely simple... Again I have no time right now to get into this. I am so glad though, that you brought this up and that you are hold your own answer in abeyance... > Yes, we choose to be here, but do we plan everything before we come? No.... (I say again with a smiling face) we do not choose to be here... We accept (initially or eventually) un-conditionally that we are here. When we do that *free will* is activated, when we do not yet... we suffer in-human de-natured conditionality. > Did I decide to be molested? > Or was it just a human experience that I experienced..And > really not something I planned? Did I really create that situation? Or is it > because the human element is so "lost" in their minds and egos that the > situations create themselves... It is part of being "in the game" You did NOT decide to be molested or raped or whatever...you became part of someone else's GAME of conditionality... they took you out of the human divine play or "leela" > But now, consciously, I can choose to remove myself from the game of "life" > or be a part of it, at will... It is my free will to choose the game or not. When one lives love and life unconditionally the gaming stops (strategizing, rules, winning, losing, manipulations, manoeuvres, positioning, politisizing, posturing) and the human - divine play gets picked up again from where one left of when one were disturbed by a perpetrator or set of perpetrators of games of abuse of power. When one starts seeing the illusionist characteristics of that pseudo-life one REALIZES this, realization... > I am uncertain as to how much we plan.... No, again smilingly... we do not. The suffering human is for the time being hijacked, part of someone else's malicious plans in games of conditionalities that eventually fall apart. When we get kicked out of our divine - human play by these persons, we are in the eyes of these powermongers controlled by their rules of conditionality... They actually think that they have stopped our free will... that may seem so for a while... but it is only a suspension... Every human will sort it out in ONE lifetime... (By the way, a lifetime does not get interrupted by death, someone who dies does not experience death... only the observers see something like 'passing on' or 'a body disintegrating' happening... Again no time to go deeper into that. > Do we plan the pain? Or only plan the good? > Or do we really plan it at all, or does it just happen? Again: *Anything that can happen has happened is happening or will happen.* That is a wonderful thing... the wheel of karma... can happily and easily be interpreted this way... When we fully understand the dynamics of external manipulations and illusionist charades we will be able to decide to jump the illusive and vicious loops... We should understand or 'at least accept', that time is not linear and one-dimensional...This one-dimensionality of time is a most flawed concept and is scientifically untenable... > Also...... I got a glimpse of a soul mate... In the 'Whole Shebang' of multiple universes, some universes are more parallel... and the idea of soul mates seems to fit... However for the unconditional loving and living person we are all soul mates... I, for example can and do live in unconditional love with anybody... Not that 'all of anybody' will see that right away, but so far pretty well everybody in my way discovers that... WE ARE ALL SOUL MATES WHO ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RE-DISCOVERING UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND LIVE > All is One, but as individuals, > do we also have "closer" spirits to us... > As in a smaller union of All... As > in also as we have created the union > between man and woman, to be joined as one... > And since we encircle ourselves many times with oneness... That is a wonderful sentence.. > do we as individual spirits have a second spirit that we join with as one, within the ONE? In the 'culture' that one lives in that can be the case... A culture is that complex of characteristics, that a constellation of parallel or overlapping, coincidental, synchronous universes have roughly in common. I will fire this off to you and somewhat edited to the list.. My dear love, So gratefully your Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2001 Report Share Posted May 17, 2001 sheez wim...all you tried to say you said...now go get laid....^^~~~~~ - Wim Borsboom <aurasphere <> Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:45 AM The Whole Shebang > Dear all and everybody, > > Someone wrote: > > Each life we live as individuals, if we manage to reach a certain level of > > awareness, this level is carried over into our next life. ? > > "Hold it, hold it!" I say here smilingly. > Before you make too strong a decision on this... > All of us at some point will discover that the idea of personally owned past > and next lives is a fallacy... LIFE works totally different... I have > unfortunately still no time (writing software stuff still) to get into this > deeper.. so please hold your question for a while... > > > Also..... do we choose our lives? I am wondering... > > Same thing here... LIFE does not work that way. > The answer lies somewhere in the region of: > > 1. *Anything that can happen has happened, is happening or will happen.* > > This also means that any variation on 'being a human' has, will be and is at > some point lived, sequential and coincidental, parallel as well as > perpendicular (so to say), obtusely and acutely. Time wise in reverse as > well as forwards, etc... Time is not a one dimensional something, just like > space is not... > > The order in this is purely random and statistical (a beautiful law) > according to a beautiful law that 'chaos theory' is discovering. > > 2. Another part of the answer lies in the neighbourhood of the scientific > idea of parallel multiple universes... > > This will fully solve the question of multiple lives scientifically. > > The full answer seems initially complex but once known it is extremely > simple... > Again I have no time right now to get into this. I am so glad though, that > you brought this up and that you are hold your own answer in abeyance... > > > Yes, we choose to be here, but do we plan everything before we come? > > No.... (I say again with a smiling face) we do not choose to be here... > We accept (initially or eventually) un-conditionally that we are here. When > we do that *free will* is activated, when we do not yet... we suffer > in-human de-natured conditionality. > > > Did I decide to be molested? > > Or was it just a human experience that I experienced..And > > really not something I planned? Did I really create that situation? Or is > it > > because the human element is so "lost" in their minds and egos that the > > situations create themselves... It is part of being "in the game" > > You did NOT decide to be molested or raped or whatever...you became part of > someone else's GAME of conditionality... they took you out of the human > divine play or "leela" > > > But now, consciously, I can choose to remove myself from the game of > "life" > > or be a part of it, at will... It is my free will to choose the game or > not. > > When one lives love and life unconditionally the gaming stops (strategizing, > rules, winning, losing, manipulations, manoeuvres, positioning, > politisizing, posturing) and the human - divine play gets picked up again > from where one left of when one were disturbed by a perpetrator or set of > perpetrators of games of abuse of power. When one starts seeing the > illusionist characteristics of that pseudo-life one REALIZES this, > realization... > > > I am uncertain as to how much we plan.... > > No, again smilingly... we do not. > The suffering human is for the time being hijacked, part of someone else's > malicious plans in games of conditionalities that eventually fall apart. > When we get kicked out of our divine - human play by these persons, we are > in the eyes of these powermongers controlled by their rules of > conditionality... They actually think that they have stopped our free > will... that may seem so for a while... but it is only a suspension... Every > human will sort it out in ONE lifetime... (By the way, a lifetime does not > get interrupted by death, someone who dies does not experience death... only > the observers see something like 'passing on' or 'a body disintegrating' > happening... > Again no time to go deeper into that. > > > Do we plan the pain? Or only plan the good? > > Or do we really plan it at all, or does it just happen? > > Again: *Anything that can happen has happened is happening or will happen.* > That is a wonderful thing... the wheel of karma... can happily and easily be > interpreted this way... > When we fully understand the dynamics of external manipulations and > illusionist charades we will be able to decide to jump the illusive and > vicious loops... > > We should understand or 'at least accept', that time is not linear and > one-dimensional...This one-dimensionality of time is a most flawed concept > and is scientifically untenable... > > > Also...... I got a glimpse of a soul mate... > > In the 'Whole Shebang' of multiple universes, some universes are more > parallel... and the idea of soul mates seems to fit... > However for the unconditional loving and living person we are all soul > mates... I, for example can and do live in unconditional love with > anybody... Not that 'all of anybody' will see that right away, but so far > pretty well everybody in my way discovers > that... > WE ARE ALL SOUL MATES WHO ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RE-DISCOVERING UNCONDITIONAL > LOVE AND LIVE > > > All is One, but as individuals, > > do we also have "closer" spirits to us... > > As in a smaller union of All... As > > in also as we have created the union > > between man and woman, to be joined as one... > > > And since we encircle ourselves many times with oneness... > > That is a wonderful sentence.. > > > do we as individual spirits have a second spirit that we join with as one, > within the ONE? > > In the 'culture' that one lives in that can be the case... > A culture is that complex of characteristics, that a constellation of > parallel or overlapping, coincidental, synchronous universes have roughly in > common. > > I will fire this off to you and somewhat edited to the list.. > > My dear love, > So gratefully your Wim > > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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