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Namaste All,

 

The fascination with illusory nature and attachment to all its

manifestations, mistakenly called love and bonding, runs very deep.

First of all we physically are part of it and have deep samskaras

inherited from the animal world,as the jiva rose to be human animal.

 

Secondly according to the scriptures, cross referenced with Edgar

Cayce, astral jivas descended here about 20 million years ago,

thinking up bodies, then enjoying the fruits of sex and food. Thus

becoming concretised and stuck here, all kind of monstrous mixtures

adn sphinxes etc.

 

Adamic man descended 10 million years ago to correct the situation,

350 million souls. This is recorded in the Bible and the Puranas. The

Sons of God of Gen: 6 and the Kumaras of the Bhagavata Purana. 3-4 I

think.

 

Unfortunately Adamic man didn't carry the whole day and mixed with the

pre Adamics Gen:6.

 

The reason for the descent in the first place was to chart a new

course in spirituality and direction. Away from fascination with

nature mainly sex etc, to a more controlled spirituality.

 

After the sinking of Mu and Atlantis a new mixed man emerged, but the

souls are still of different types.

 

The politicians of the world and the rulers, excepting perhaps people

like the Dalai Lama, are in the main not Adamics but sensualists from

prior days or mixtures. Followers of Belili, this was the forerunner

of religions where the descended astrals still communicated with those

still in the astral. All lower level ancestor worship and spirit/deva

worship.

 

So the world is upside down and everything we read and hear is stuff

propagated by these souls, attachment is good, sensual satisfaction is

spirituality etc. It is almost a tacit conspiracy! look at them Ariel

Sharon. Jang Jemin, Cheney the Bushes et al.

 

There are still the darker forces that caused the need

for Adamic/Kumaric descent and may yet again!!

 

Their big sin is that they deprive the ordinary people of learning of

true spirituality in order to further their own material sensual ends.

Even the religions have been heavily usurped in favour of 'private

clubs', etc. ADamic didn't worship they were spiritual not religious!

 

It is the worst period in human history but also the best opportunity

because of the magnifaction of the opposites.

 

Om Namah Sivaya.....Tony

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gee tony....you missed your calling in life....you should become a

fantasy/sci-fi writer because you are certainly lost in the mythic cosmos of

your conceptualizing imagination.....if you can enough teen-agers hooked on

this sthick you might even become a rich and successul paper back

writer....and then you could fulfill your manifest destiny and start your

own church just like L.R. Hubbard....thanks for the entertainment!.....look

at me....a wild and crazy dog.....i am ROTFL.....^^~~~~~

> Namaste All,

>

> The fascination with illusory nature and attachment to all its

> manifestations, mistakenly called love and bonding, runs very deep.

> First of all we physically are part of it and have deep samskaras

> inherited from the animal world,as the jiva rose to be human animal.

>

> Secondly according to the scriptures, cross referenced with Edgar

> Cayce, astral jivas descended here about 20 million years ago,

> thinking up bodies, then enjoying the fruits of sex and food. Thus

> becoming concretised and stuck here, all kind of monstrous mixtures

> adn sphinxes etc.

>

> Adamic man descended 10 million years ago to correct the situation,

> 350 million souls. This is recorded in the Bible and the Puranas. The

> Sons of God of Gen: 6 and the Kumaras of the Bhagavata Purana. 3-4 I

> think.

>

> Unfortunately Adamic man didn't carry the whole day and mixed with the

> pre Adamics Gen:6.

>

> The reason for the descent in the first place was to chart a new

> course in spirituality and direction. Away from fascination with

> nature mainly sex etc, to a more controlled spirituality.

>

> After the sinking of Mu and Atlantis a new mixed man emerged, but the

> souls are still of different types.

>

> The politicians of the world and the rulers, excepting perhaps people

> like the Dalai Lama, are in the main not Adamics but sensualists from

> prior days or mixtures. Followers of Belili, this was the forerunner

> of religions where the descended astrals still communicated with those

> still in the astral. All lower level ancestor worship and spirit/deva

> worship.

>

> So the world is upside down and everything we read and hear is stuff

> propagated by these souls, attachment is good, sensual satisfaction is

> spirituality etc. It is almost a tacit conspiracy! look at them Ariel

> Sharon. Jang Jemin, Cheney the Bushes et al.

>

> There are still the darker forces that caused the need

> for Adamic/Kumaric descent and may yet again!!

>

> Their big sin is that they deprive the ordinary people of learning of

> true spirituality in order to further their own material sensual ends.

> Even the religions have been heavily usurped in favour of 'private

> clubs', etc. ADamic didn't worship they were spiritual not religious!

>

> It is the worst period in human history but also the best opportunity

> because of the magnifaction of the opposites.

>

> Om Namah Sivaya.....>

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

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, "White Wolfe" <valemar@m...> wrote:

> gee tony....you missed your calling in life....you should become a

> fantasy/sci-fi writer because you are certainly lost in the mythic

cosmos of

> your conceptualizing imagination.....if you can enough teen-agers

hooked on

> this sthick you might even become a rich and successul paper back

> writer....and then you could fulfill your manifest destiny and start

your

> own church just like L.R. Hubbard....thanks for the

entertainment!.....look

> at me....a wild and crazy dog.....i am ROTFL.....^^~~~~~

 

Namaste All,

 

Ah well what can I say to put and quote such scriptures and seer

against such as you.

 

The beauty of the world doesn't exist ultimately, no colour, no

sounds, no textures, no aromas, no perfumes, they are all subjective

experiences. Even hypnosis can change how we relate and experience it.

 

However speaking about relative illusion would you please go to

Genesis 6: and explain what you read, and then read the first 3 to 4

cantos of the Bhagavata and comment.

 

I have no desire to start any teaching situation or anything like

that, I am just acting and reacting on here right now. My destiny is

to become 'realised'. Manifest Destiny is such a sullied expression

and description of colonial expansion don't you think?

 

Om Namah Sivaya......Tony.

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Tony:

> My destiny is to become 'realised'. Manifest Destiny is such a sullied

expression and description of colonial expansion don't you think? Om Namah

Sivaya......Tony.

 

 

And there's your big mistake Tony.

Your belief that 'YOU' can become 'realized.

Love,

Mira

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Mira and Tony,

>Tony:

>> My destiny is to become 'realised'. Manifest Destiny is such a sullied

>expression and description of colonial expansion don't you think? Om Namah

>Sivaya......Tony.

>

>Mira:

>And there's your big mistake Tony.

>Your belief that 'YOU' can become 'realized.

 

Very insightful! Yes! That YOU is just what Wim means by the pseudo Tony.

The ego image, what you think you are...

 

That was a wonderful post on surrender. Could you give it all up, Tony?

Surrender everything you think you are? All your ideas and concepts? All

your beliefs?

 

You can't get rid of what is really you. If you give up everything,

surrender it all, then all that's left is the REAL.

 

Love,

Dharma

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