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On 5/28/01 at 11:36 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

 

ºNamaste All,

º

ºNice Roses Jan but actually what stopped me drinking was meditation,(

ºmeditation reduces and fries samskaras), smoking I had given up in the

ºQueensland canefields many years before.

 

Isn't that a small part of the picture? Whence the decision to meditate?

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, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

>

> On 5/28/01 at 11:36 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

>

> ºNamaste All,

> º

> ºNice Roses Jan but actually what stopped me drinking was

meditation,(

> ºmeditation reduces and fries samskaras), smoking I had given up in

the

> ºQueensland canefields many years before.

>

> Isn't that a small part of the picture? Whence the decision to

meditate?

 

Namaste Jan,

 

It was accidental,(synchronicity). I found a Hittleman's Yoga book in

a $1 box at Sears. They said if it's there it's a dollar. So I took it

home and read it. I couldn't understand the vedanta at the time but I

tried the meditations, and then things started happening. ONS..Tony.

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On 5/29/01 at 12:58 AM Tony O'Clery wrote:

 

º, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

º>

º> On 5/28/01 at 11:36 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

º>

º> ºNamaste All,

º> º

º> ºNice Roses Jan but actually what stopped me drinking was

ºmeditation,(

º> ºmeditation reduces and fries samskaras), smoking I had given up in

ºthe

º> ºQueensland canefields many years before.

º>

º> Isn't that a small part of the picture? Whence the decision to

ºmeditate?

º

ºNamaste Jan,

º

ºIt was accidental,(synchronicity). I found a Hittleman's Yoga book in

ºa $1 box at Sears. They said if it's there it's a dollar. So I took it

ºhome and read it. I couldn't understand the vedanta at the time but I

ºtried the meditations, and then things started happening. ONS..Tony.

 

Where you just curious to try out the meditations?

Or curious because of what was promised as a 'result'?

For me that could have been possible reasons...

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, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

> On 5/29/01 at 12:58 AM Tony O'Clery wrote:

>

> º, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

> º>

> º> On 5/28/01 at 11:36 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

> º>

> º> ºNamaste All,

> º> º

> º> ºNice Roses Jan but actually what stopped me drinking was

> ºmeditation,(

> º> ºmeditation reduces and fries samskaras), smoking I had given up

in

> ºthe

> º> ºQueensland canefields many years before.

> º>

> º> Isn't that a small part of the picture? Whence the decision to

> ºmeditate?

> º

> ºNamaste Jan,

> º

> ºIt was accidental,(synchronicity). I found a Hittleman's Yoga book

in

> ºa $1 box at Sears. They said if it's there it's a dollar. So I took

it

> ºhome and read it. I couldn't understand the vedanta at the time but

I

> ºtried the meditations, and then things started happening.

ONS..Tony.

>

> Where you just curious to try out the meditations?

> Or curious because of what was promised as a 'result'?

> For me that could have been possible reasons...

 

Namaste Jan,

 

I knew nothing of yoga, I only bought the book because it shouldn't

have been in the cheap $1 box. Then when I got it home I started doing

some of the asanas and meditations on candles stones flowers etc. I

didn't do it for any reason other than I had the book...I figured

later that it was my Higher Self giving me a nudge along....ONS Tony.

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On 5/29/01 at 1:35 AM Tony O'Clery wrote:

 

º, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

º> On 5/29/01 at 12:58 AM Tony O'Clery wrote:

º>

º> º, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

º> º>

º> º> On 5/28/01 at 11:36 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

º> º>

º> º> ºNamaste All,

º> º> º

º> º> ºNice Roses Jan but actually what stopped me drinking was

º> ºmeditation,(

º> º> ºmeditation reduces and fries samskaras), smoking I had given up

ºin

º> ºthe

º> º> ºQueensland canefields many years before.

º> º>

º> º> Isn't that a small part of the picture? Whence the decision to

º> ºmeditate?

º> º

º> ºNamaste Jan,

º> º

º> ºIt was accidental,(synchronicity). I found a Hittleman's Yoga book

ºin

º> ºa $1 box at Sears. They said if it's there it's a dollar. So I took

ºit

º> ºhome and read it. I couldn't understand the vedanta at the time but

ºI

º> ºtried the meditations, and then things started happening.

ºONS..Tony.

º>

º> Where you just curious to try out the meditations?

º> Or curious because of what was promised as a 'result'?

º> For me that could have been possible reasons...

º

ºNamaste Jan,

º

ºI knew nothing of yoga, I only bought the book because it shouldn't

ºhave been in the cheap $1 box. Then when I got it home I started doing

ºsome of the asanas and meditations on candles stones flowers etc. I

ºdidn't do it for any reason other than I had the book...I figured

ºlater that it was my Higher Self giving me a nudge along....ONS Tony.

 

And now that you know "there is only Self", do you still use terminology like

higher and lower Self?

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, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

> On 5/29/01 at 1:35 AM Tony O'Clery wrote:

>

> º, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

> º> On 5/29/01 at 12:58 AM Tony O'Clery wrote:

> º>

> º> º, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

> º> º>

> º> º> On 5/28/01 at 11:36 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

> º> º>

> º> º> ºNamaste All,

> º> º> º

> º> º> ºNice Roses Jan but actually what stopped me drinking was

> º> ºmeditation,(

> º> º> ºmeditation reduces and fries samskaras), smoking I had given

up

> ºin

> º> ºthe

> º> º> ºQueensland canefields many years before.

> º> º>

> º> º> Isn't that a small part of the picture? Whence the decision to

> º> ºmeditate?

> º> º

> º> ºNamaste Jan,

> º> º

> º> ºIt was accidental,(synchronicity). I found a Hittleman's Yoga

book

> ºin

> º> ºa $1 box at Sears. They said if it's there it's a dollar. So I

took

> ºit

> º> ºhome and read it. I couldn't understand the vedanta at the time

but

> ºI

> º> ºtried the meditations, and then things started happening.

> ºONS..Tony.

> º>

> º> Where you just curious to try out the meditations?

> º> Or curious because of what was promised as a 'result'?

> º> For me that could have been possible reasons...

> º

> ºNamaste Jan,

> º

> ºI knew nothing of yoga, I only bought the book because it shouldn't

> ºhave been in the cheap $1 box. Then when I got it home I started

doing

> ºsome of the asanas and meditations on candles stones flowers etc. I

> ºdidn't do it for any reason other than I had the book...I figured

> ºlater that it was my Higher Self giving me a nudge along....ONS

Tony.

>

> And now that you know "there is only Self", do you still use

terminology like

> higher and lower Self?

 

Namaste Jan,

 

Well actually at the time I bought the book I was at my low ebb or

extremity hence God's opportunity. So relatively I have to still use

higher and lower as long as the wall outside seems solid to me.

Again I know there is only one but until I really know that, I will

use such terminology to survive in this illusory world....ONS...Tony.

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>>>Tony:

>>>I figured

>>>later that it was my Higher Self giving me a nudge along.

>>

>>Jan:

>> And now that you know "there is only Self", do you still use

>terminology like

>> higher and lower Self?

>

>Tony:

>Well actually at the time I bought the book I was at my low ebb or

>extremity hence God's opportunity. So relatively I have to still use

>higher and lower as long as the wall outside seems solid to me.

>Again I know there is only one but until I really know that, I will

>use such terminology to survive in this illusory world.

 

So do I, Tony, to function in this world. I still act _as if_ we were

separate beings... otherwise, I wouldn't be writing posts at all. I still

find it convenient to operate _as if_ High Self is someone other than me,

someone I can talk to... or sometimes as if Low Self is someone else.

:))))) I still give my food - and the karmic stuff I find on my bodies -

to Goddess, and ask GB, my spiritual guru, for guidance... even though I

know it's a kind of play in which I'm taking all the roles.

>From another angle, if we didn't make some abstractions - discriminate

among parts of Ourself - we couldn't discuss anything at all. :)) I mean,

if you look at a big Thing, the only way you can talk about it... or

_think_ about it... is to look for some specific things about it, some

details or aspects, that you can separate out - yes, and give names to. :)

 

Love,

Dharma

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