Guest guest Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 , "Gloria Lee" <glee@i...> wrote: > > > The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. > Bertrand Russell Namaste Glo, Yes the only thing that I know is that I don't know. The last time I listened to Bertie, I got locked up for demonstrating, he was in the nick at the time......ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2001 Report Share Posted June 4, 2001 on 6/3/01 at 6:38 PM Gloria Lee wrote: The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell That evokes the question, why accept a division like fools, fanatics and wise, as if man didn't succeed in creating enough division already - not just religious... Erroneous upbringing and education causes one to see: a tree as "tree plus preconceived notions like tiny/tall" instead of just "tree" (with properties) a dog as "dog plus preconceived notions like cute/ferocious" instead of just "dog" (with properties) a building as "building plus preconceived notions like beautiful/ugly" instead of just "building" (with properties) etc. etc. etc. And the problem is, once the preconceived notions installed, they are defined as "right" by the non-existent owner ("owner", another preconceived notion), for whom they have become "holy cows"... Jan Dear Jan, Your point is well taken, as usual. But what is a "holy cow" if not the very certainty of "beliefs" and preconceived notions that you deplore here? And, are you not right here showing your own resistance to being "led down the garden path" by another's ideas and notions?? You are not gullible, nor subject to being easily fooled.. the usual prey of the fanatics ARE. But why? Isn't their very craving for certainty (and one's own self-doubt) what makes someone so willing to believe and follow those "others" who do seem so sure of what is right and truth? Maybe this is why Buddha encouraged his followers to not believe anything on another's authority, even Buddha himself, but to find out for themselves. Would that we could all see "just what is" as it is, as you describe here. Doubt can be the wisdom that opens a window to resist the group consenus taught and see what it really is afresh. Love, Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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