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At 11:27 PM 6/5/01 +0000, you wrote:

Namaste All,

This will be last post today, I have to do some work. It is

fascinating that people, Dan etc, think that I need attention. No that

isn't it. I don't know why I write here, sometimes I disappear for

months and months and then here I am again. I suppose it is to give

the intellectuals a whipping boy when I quote Buddha and Ramana, for

it wouldn't be proper to attack them would it? but Tony is fine.

Yes its fine and I do have broad shoulders and it is difficult to

insult me or so my wife says.

The Buddha didn't talk of God but he did intimate 'something'( Nirguna

Brahman), or it would all be a waste. Also his lessons were full of

morality and non violence to all sentient beings, much ignored by so

called Buddhists.

It is not my way or the highway, I've said that I never talk about

this stuff to meat eaters not on the spiritual path. I'm extremely

tolerant and open minded. I am just mirroring some of your hypocrisy

or perhaps some ringing truths.

One cannot intellectually project oneself into moksha, it is only in

the mind, thoughts. One has to walk the walk and talk the talk. I have

sympathy for the animals for I know how they suffer needlessly to feed

people's bellies.

Intellectualism is tremendously effete, it let the Nazis kill 11,5

million in the concentration camps,Jews, Gypsies etc, it let the

Ruandan massacre happen, it lets people die all around the world. I

see no benefits from it all, they are never the ones that 'do',

anything. Perhaps because they believe there is nothing to do, non

dualistic speech of course. No matter how brilliant a mind,if the

Buddhi isn't purified then you'll be back again and again, still

talking non dually.

All knowledge is false knowledge and avidya anyway. It doesn't alter

the fact that trying to see mass slaughter and torture for food is

really someones business, is so much crap coming from supposedly

enlightened people.

It just illustrates well my point about awareness and purification,

much of which quotes I have given from Buddha and Ramana.

I enjoy watching your mental gymnastics but you don't get my respect,

just pity for the missed opportunity.

Om Namah Sivaya...Tony.

Hi Tony,

Oh well -- you get my respect,

for if I walk a mile in any

man's or woman's moccasins,

respect is there.

I've appreciated your persistence,

if not every single one of your sardonic

put-downs.

Perhaps there is a note of grieving

in your voice, now that Bruce

mentioned it.

If so, and you continue to deal with

loss of illusions, I wish you

healing on your journey.

Thanks for putting up with us, Tony.

You're a good man.

Keep on keepin' on...

I'll "own" enjoying attention at times,

not seeing that as "bad" or "wrong" ...

If it's not your way or the highway, Tony,

then open your heart and accept all,

as is, be gentle with yourself and others ...

I'm sorry if there was a missed opportunity,

but opportunity arises, like the Phoenix,

always anew.

By the way it wasn't intellectualism,

it was treating other

people as inferior and expendable that

killed millions. And to walk that walk

of seeing others as items to be negated

and looked down upon,

as well as thinking the thoughts, and

talking the talk.

And many of the killers were vegetarians,

including Adolf.

Peace,

Dan

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>I have no interest whether you like my posts or me at all. I can see

>what I am pointing out is obvious by the low level of awareness

>here.ONS...Tony.

 

Poor Tony... no sense of humor at all! You don't know what you're

missing... :)))

>, Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote:

>> It seems the effect of Tony's

>> writing is quite universal,

>> quite an achievement, no?

>> Perhaps Mira is susceptible

>> because of her marriage to a

>> "North American." For

>> myself, it could be the only

>> factor preventing me from

>> personally butchering the

>> nearest hapless bovine after

>> reading a few of Tony's posts

>> is probably caution on account

>> of the recent upturn in nasty

>> livestock infections. :-)

>>

>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:17:17 +0200 "Mirror" <mirror@u...>

>> writes:

>> Joyce:

>> -Tony, I find your posts a marvelous manifestation of projection. Im

>not

>> a meat eater, simply don't like it, but your posts make me want to

>rush

>> out and eat a steak.

>>

>> LOLOLOL!!!! Been a veggie for years, yet his posts have the same

>effect

>> on me!!!

>Namaste All,

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