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, "Mirror" <mirror.reflections@h...> wrote:

> finding personspsst Jan... I couldn't even find a person.... darn...

> and the street is crowded with people.... couldn't even find the

one that is

> looking for a person!!

>

> The persons are over here playing with me - J.

>

>

> and who are you?

> ....oh no.... that's the girl who's latest koan is "who is Dave

Oshana"...

> I'm outta here... :-)

>

> M

 

Namaste,

 

Electrons, mesons, bosons, and persons.....ONS...Tony

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psst Jan... I couldn't even find a person.... darn...and the street is

crowded with people.... couldn't even find the one that islooking for

a person!!The persons are over here playing with me - J.

and who are you?

.....oh no.... that's the girl who's latest koan is "who is Dave Oshana"...

I'm outta here... :-)

 

M

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On 6/10/01 at 4:48 PM Joyce Short wrote:

psst Jan... I couldn't even find a person.... darn...and the street is

crowded with people.... couldn't even find the one that islooking for

a person!!The persons are over here playing with me - J.

The play of playfulness? Always a nice party :)

 

Jan

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On 6/10/01 at 8:53 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

 

º, "Mirror" <mirror.reflections@h...> wrote:

º> finding personspsst Jan... I couldn't even find a person.... darn...

º> and the street is crowded with people.... couldn't even find the

ºone that is

º> looking for a person!!

º>

º> The persons are over here playing with me - J.

º>

º>

º> and who are you?

º> ....oh no.... that's the girl who's latest koan is "who is Dave

ºOshana"...

º> I'm outta here... :-)

º>

º> M

º

ºNamaste,

º

ºElectrons, mesons, bosons, and persons.....ONS...

Don't forget the vacuum, from which it all springs :)

 

Jan

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>Mira:

>psst Jan... I couldn't even find a person.... darn...

>and the street is crowded with people.... couldn't even find the one that is

>looking for a person!!

>

>Joyce:

>The persons are over here playing with me - J.

 

Sounds like more fun! :)

 

Dharma

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psst...i am not here....contradictory to all evidence otherwise...i am

not a even person....i am an endanged species....i am a white

wolfe.....such a funny mental concept.....there is no self!....just

for fun on this topic...Jesus was convinced that we are here....and

the related one of, 'to be or not to be a veggie'...(iron deficiency

is often a bigger problem for veggies then for not veggies).... which

has been going on for centuries....

Jesus said, "Fortunate is the lion that the human will eat, so that

the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that the lion will eat

and the lion will become human."

-The Gospel of Thomas (The Hidden Sayings of Jesus)

now, of course, as a professional chef i must tell you that mark is a

moderate veggie....the middle way....do not believe in eating meat

for social reasons rather for spritual ones (is there any real

difference?).....i particularly object to cattle and chicken as they

are two animals that are being consumned to the point that

bio-diveristy is being compromised....just like i object to all

processed and institutionanlly produced foods and all crops that are

raised using modern agri-business techniques....i prefer heritage

grains (thai purple rice, russian black lentils, etc.) and organic

produce when i can get it and afford it...if we lived in a more

harmonious state with nature (which it is not possible to do anywhere

in the modern world due to the over-population of the human species)

we would have never arrived at the mental concept.....'i will not eat

meat'.....the human animal is a natural omnivore....go take a look at

your teeth in the mirror....as a hunter/gatherers we would take what

we could find and be grateful for it....of, course now all this begs

the question about the relationship between evolution and higher

consciousness....but i will not go there.....i will end with

this....please sir, do you have anything without meat on the

menu?....cause being the wilde and crazy dog I AM, i do not eat

meat....^^~~~~~

white wolfe

> >Mira:> >psst Jan... I couldn't even find a person.... darn...> >and

the street is crowded with people.... couldn't even find the one that

is> >looking for a person!!> >> >Joyce:> >The persons are over here

playing with me - J.> > Sounds like more fun! :)> > Dharma> > > >

/join> >

> > > > All

paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and

subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not

different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of

the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always

Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart

to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the

Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It

Self. Welcome all to a.> > > > Your use of

Groups is subject to > > >

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>Joyce:

>The persons are over here playing with me - J.

Sounds like more fun! :)

Dharma

Yes...although not 'more' fun...I've always enjoyed hide and seek.

One can dance alone or with a partner. Some disputes can arise over

who leads and who follows but thats just part of the dance. Dancing

teachers like to teach dancing, think its a big deal, although this

seems predicated on the notion that others can't dance or have to be

taught how and that dancing may be difficult, even might have to be

taught in some obscure language. If someone will only dance with me

if I pretend I don't know how to dance, that's fine, as then I

usually learn a few new steps. Dancing class is intriguing. And

sooner or later the music takes hold, dancing dances and then

everything else is forgotten.

Joyce

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, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

> On 6/10/01 at 8:53 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

>

> º, "Mirror" <mirror.reflections@h...>

wrote:

> º> finding personspsst Jan... I couldn't even find a person....

darn...

> º> and the street is crowded with people.... couldn't even find

the

> ºone that is

> º> looking for a person!!

> º>

> º> The persons are over here playing with me - J.

> º>

> º>

> º> and who are you?

> º> ....oh no.... that's the girl who's latest koan is "who is

Dave

> ºOshana"...

> º> I'm outta here... :-)

> º>

> º> M

> º

> ºNamaste,

> º

> ºElectrons, mesons, bosons, and persons.....ONS...>

> Don't forget the vacuum, from which it all springs :)

>

> Jan

 

Namaste All,

 

What vacuum? The dark matter? or the non existent dream?...ONS..Tony

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On 6/11/01 at 3:19 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

 

º, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

º> On 6/10/01 at 8:53 PM Tony O'Clery wrote:

º>

º> º, "Mirror" <mirror.reflections@h...>

ºwrote:

º> º> finding personspsst Jan... I couldn't even find a person....

ºdarn...

º> º> and the street is crowded with people.... couldn't even find

ºthe

º> ºone that is

º> º> looking for a person!!

º> º>

º> º> The persons are over here playing with me - J.

º> º>

º> º>

º> º> and who are you?

º> º> ....oh no.... that's the girl who's latest koan is "who is

ºDave

º> ºOshana"...

º> º> I'm outta here... :-)

º> º>

º> º> M

º> º

º> ºNamaste,

º> º

º> ºElectrons, mesons, bosons, and persons.....ONS...º>

º> Don't forget the vacuum, from which it all springs :)

º>

º> Jan

º

ºNamaste All,

º

ºWhat vacuum? The dark matter? or the non existent dream?...ONS..

Right, with a mind full enough to fill a billion universes,

a vacuum seems nonexistent. The laugh of waking up

from all those dreams, only to find no one was dreaming

so there couldn't have been dreams and no one to wake up.

 

Joy and laughter,

Jan

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> º> ºNamaste,

> º> º

> º> ºElectrons, mesons, bosons, and persons.....ONS...> º>

> º> Don't forget the vacuum, from which it all springs :)

> º>

> º> Jan

> º

> ºNamaste All,

> º

> ºWhat vacuum? The dark matter? or the non existent

dream?...ONS..Tony

>

> Right, with a mind full enough to fill a billion universes,

> a vacuum seems nonexistent. The laugh of waking up

> from all those dreams, only to find no one was dreaming

> so there couldn't have been dreams and no one to wake up.

>

> Joy and laughter,

> Jan

 

Namaste Jan,

 

Of course ultimately there never was a dream, a happening, a peron or

a personal God or even a witness or doer. However I keep getting

caught up with descriptions to convey present thoughts....ONS...Tony.

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....The laugh of waking up

from all those dreams, only to find no one was dreaming

so there couldn't have been dreams and no one to wake up.

Joy and laughter,

Jan

Dear Jan --

Namaste.

With the above, you've said

it as plainly as it can

be said.

Everything else ever said on the

subject adds nothing, is only

to assist to getting to the

point where the above is clear.

When the above is clear, it vanishes,

too, via its own (non)logic.

Cheshire greetings,

Dan

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