Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Being sober is much more fun, joyful, and peaceful. Of course, now that I don't have my "medicine" I have no effective way of dealing with the ache in my chest (that I have come to believe is my longing for reunion with God). Drinking and drugs initially made this ache go away, so I thought I had found 'the answer.' I now realize that making the ache go away isn't quite the same as decreasing the ache by beginning to fulfill the desire (of losing myself so as to better feel my connection with all that is). I have noticed that the aching in chest 'can't be dealt with' other then completely and patiently honoring it, going deeply into all the sensations there, be willing to 'not-know' what is happening there. And then eventually, wisdom will arise out of this, an understanding on a deep level. For me, usually an insight into some clinging or pattern that is keeping 'self' separate. Perhaps, 'God' is manifesting as 'aching heart' and needs to be found there, intimately, beyond words. In that aching be reunited as 'not-two'. God just won't go away. She wishes to be recognized everywhere without exception in all Her distressing disguises. In all things re-united. Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Dear Joyce, You say that so well: I have noticed that the aching in chest 'can't be dealt with' other then completely and patiently honoring it, going deeply into all the sensations there, be willing to 'not-know' what is happening there. And then eventually, wisdom will arise out of this, an understanding on a deep level. You will then recognize that all comes forth from all encompassing bliss. The aching that so many feel in the chest is the aching that causes the always present bliss to be 'unfelt' as though is hidden that terrible empty feeling. The ache is the memory of the first moment that it was denied, trampled upon, ignored. Your suggestion of "going deeply into all the sensations there' will eventually lead one to recognize all encompassing bliss again. It is very daring to go about it the way you suggest, but it is the only way that is successful and irreversible... Everyone with such pain will eventually and specifically make contact with that moment of attempted robbery and vilification and reclaim the re-cognition and real-ization of innate unconditional love. Love, Joyce, Wim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 is very daring to go about it the way you suggest, but it is the only way that is successful and irreversible... Everyone with such pain will eventually and specifically make contact with that moment of attempted robbery and vilification and reclaim the re-cognition and real-ization of innate unconditional love. Yes, what you say is probably true re the origins of such things. But, for 'me' if attention rests on that aching, eventually I discover the thoughts and attitudes toward some 'other' that are causing the contraction. I invaribly discover less than unconditional love (vilification) towards something or someone. The first recognition is of owning this act of separating. I can usually tell when a little wisdom is then present because remorse may arise and insight into the deeper level of thought patterns and thus release from it. I can guess at the origins, the sins of the fathers arising in the children, but the remedy of empowerment is applied here and now. Metta Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Dear Joyce, You wrote: Yes, what you say is probably true re the origins of such things. But, for 'me' if attention rests on that aching, eventually I discover the thoughts and attitudes toward some 'other' that are causing the contraction. My dear Joyce, it is imperative though to realize that those contractions, thoughts and attitudes come from the recoil that was caused to us and in us by the very first INNOCUOUS occurrence of an attempt at endangerment to our unconditional state of being and unconditional love, the innate and original state of every being, in our case (as we are humans) the human being. No need to seek for the cause of that endangerment within oneself, as it can NOT be found there. The 'innocuous' attempt to damage the pure original being is done while we are still very young, still in a state of uncondional love, trust and... the rightful expectation of that unconditional love and trust. The damage to us is NOT initiated to purposely harm us. The infringement of freedom of the human being is done through ignorant (positive meaning) and forgivable transmission of harm by a 'person' who also innocuously received that harm and therefore also lost conscious knowledge of that innate freedom of the divine human. How all that started originally with humankind is not useful at this point to get into. It is actually very, very simple, but the 'hornets nest' or 'can of worms' so to say, that such a discussion would open up would only lead to deviate us from the path of individual and mutual healing towards the recovery of our original purity in love, life and wisdom. Self incrimination, self recrimination will not work... That is very important to accept in principle. To not employ 'self-crimination in whatever form' does not mean that one is blaming others and shirking responsibility for one's own (?) faults... There are no faults to find... not anywhere..., with no one... we are divine humans in the process of remembering our temporary oversight of divinity.This wonderful earth in this wonderful universum is the place for us to do that... THIS IS IT, the place and the moment for the miracle of SELF to be recovered. I invariably discover less than unconditional love (vilification) towards something or someone. Remember though, Joyce, no blame to self and others is needed. In fact blame in any form backfires and recreates the memory of our first recoil and acquisition of suffering. The first recognition is of owning this act of separating. No no no, do not get tempted Joyce, to "own" or 'own up'... Such would be the reactivation of the 'sentence of incrimination' done to you, transmitted to you under duress. That very act of "owning the act of separating" is what separates even more, it prolongs the suffering and makes the pain or ache that hides original bliss even stronger... We are, each one of us, conceived blameless, guiltless, sinless... Blame, guilt, judgement, deficiency, sin, shortcomings...none of that takes place in that miraculous natural, physical and biological sacrificial act (sacred action) of creative conception... I can usually tell when a little wisdom is then present because remorse may arise and insight into the deeper level of thought patterns and thus release from it. Remorse eventually will not do, remorse is from and leads to self incrimination... Compassion only... there is no blame... There is judgement in divinity. I can guess at the origins, the sins of the fathers arising in the children, Ouch, "the sins of the fathers...", etc. No need, for that... no need for any sin... but the remedy of empowerment is applied here and now. And that is so MettaJoyce Love, Joyce, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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