" "

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>Tony:

>There was no Ramana to use anything, it was the universal mind

that

>used itself.

You could say the same of Jesus, Gautama, and others. But there

were

differences... in appearance, garb, language, habits, etc.,

etc...

universal mind expresses on the lower planes through some vehicle,

a

Galilean carpenter, a prince of the Sakyas, etc.

Where is the "universal mind" not expressing itself?

Where are the so-called "lower planes" located --

somewhere outside of the "universal mind"?

Why call it "universal mind" -- to contrast it

with non-universal mind? From whence would

such a nonuniversal (separable) mind arise?

From somewhere outside

of the "universal mind"? Why call it

"mind"?

Is there some kind of objective reality, like a body,

that arises apart from this "mind"?

Thus, it's truly " " -- (no real

separation

has ever occurred)

If the realized "

" is going to have no personality elements left at all,

then he will not be able to speak as a human being... he will not

be

incarnate.

Who is supposed to realize

" "

?

Who exists apart from

" " who

could realize it?

How will " " speak

through a human being.

To whom will

" "

speak?

What is there for

" "

to communicate?

Regarding "personality elements"

from whence could these arise, except from

" " ?

If gone, where could they go, except back to

" "?

And while they seem to be there, what could

they actually be, except

" "?

Because "personality elements" depend on

perceiving separations as if these have actually

occurred -- there are no actual personality elements

to get rid of, dissolve, etc.

Realizing this is

" ", and

thus, the realizer, realization,

and realizing are one, and that one is equivalent to

no-realization, or

" "

itself.

Yes, all this is

"

".

Nothing, no one, no event to be excluded or included.

The end of all games, including games played between

higher planes and lower planes.

Love,

Dan