Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 Note: forwarded message attached. Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail./ "Alton Slater" leenalton lostnfoundation Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:58:22 -1000 Maharaj ....realization is explosive. It takes place spontaneously, or at the slightest hint. The quick is not better than the slow. Slow ripening and rapid flowering alternate. Both are natural and right. Yet, all this is so in the mind only. As I see it, there is really nothing of the kind. In the great mirror of consciousness images arise and disappear and only memory gives them continuity. And memory is material -- destructible, perishable, transient. On such flimsy foundations we build a sense of personal existence -- vague, intermittent, dreamlike. This vague persuasion: 'I-am-so-and-so' obscures the changeless state of pure awareness and makes us believe that we are born to suffer and to die. Seeker I was told that a realized person will never do anything unseemly. That they will behave in an exemplary way. Maharaj Who sets the example? Why should a liberated one necessarily follow conventions? The moment one becomes predictable, one cannot be free. Ones freedom lies in being free to fulfill the need of the moment, to obey the necessity of the situation. Freedom to do what one likes is really bondage, while being free to do what one must, what is right, is real freedom. Seeker What about cause and effect? Maharaj Each moment contains the whole of the past and creates the whole of the future. Seeker But past and future exist? Maharaj In the mind only. Time is in the mind, space is in the mind. The law of cause and effect is also a way of thinking. In reality all is here and now and all is one. Multiplicity and diversity are in the mind only. Seeker A message in print may be paper and ink only. It is the text that matters. By analysing the world into elements and qualities we miss the most important -- its meaning. Your reduction of everything to dream disregards the difference between the dream of an insect and the dream of a poet. All is dream, granted. But not all are equal. Maharaj The dreams are not equal, but the dreamer is one. I am the insect. I am the poet -- in dream. But in reality I am neither. I am beyond all dreams. I am light in which all dreams appear and disappear. I am both inside and outside the dream. Just as a man having a headache knows the ache and also knows that he is not the ache, so do I know the dream, myself dreaming and myself not dreaming -- all at the same time. I am what I am before, during and after the dream. But what I see in dream, I am not." Seeker If both dream and escape from dream are imaginings, what is the way out? Maharaj There is no need of a way out! Don't you see that a way out is also part of the dream? All you have to do is to see the dream as dream. Seeker If I start the practice of dismissing everything as a dream, where will it lead me? Maharaj Wherever it leads you, it will be a dream. The very idea of going beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that you are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for ways out. The dream is not your problem. Your problem is that you like one part of the dream and not another. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 A very interesting message..... please read on. Malachi 3:3 There was a group of women in a Bible study on the book of malachi. As they were studying chapter three, they came across verse three, which says:" He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver." This verse puzzled the woman and they wondered what this statement meant about the character and nature of God. One woman offered to find out about the process of refining silver and get back to the group at their next Bible study. That week this woman called up a silver smith and made an appointment to watch him at work. She did'nt mention anything about the reason for her interest in silver beyond her curiosity about the process of refining silver.As she watched the silver smith, he held a piece of silver over the fire and let it heat up. He explained that in refining silver, one needed to hold the silver in the middle of the fire where the flames were hottest as to burn away all the impurities. The woman thought about God holding us in such a hot spot-then she thought again about the verse, that he sits as a refiner and purifier of silver. She asked the silver smith if it was true that he had to sit there in front of the fire the whole time the silver was being refined. The man answered that yes, he not only had to sit there holding the silver, but had to keep his eyes on the silver the entire time it was in the fire. The woman was silent for a moment. Then asked the silver smith, how do you know when the silver is fully refined? He smiled at her and answered, "Oh, that's easy-when I see my image in it." If today you are feeling the heat of the fire, remember that Bhagawan has His eye on you. Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews./fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 The all-new My – What will yours do? Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:13:28 -0800 (PST) sse hu sse_hu harshasatsangDear Sangha i want to introduce myself in this Sangha. Since many years "i am on the way" and found many years ago Ramana Maharshi. This is it was my impression and it continues to be likewise. All the best to all of you hoping to hear from you too......... ssehu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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