RE: deep-sleep state

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kerly89 [kerly89]

 

(b) the word "subdued" as for my understanding may not a correct term

because in deep sleep the mind the is not subdued but disolve (which

means it become one with it origin and not subdued in its origin). Am

I right Sadaji?.

 

Hari Om Tat sat

Ms. Kalaimalar

 

I have not followed this thread carefully. Here is one perspective in the

use of different terms in this context.

 

Deep sleep is the counterpart to Nirvikalpa Samadhi. To go to sleep, one

usually prepares a nice bed, opens the windows in the room for fresh air and

then lies down on the bed and relaxes. The first part requires some

preparation and effort. The second part is due to nature. After one lies

down, at some point sleep happens without conscious effort. So the mind in

deep sleep has become one with its origin and lies dormant as a potential.

It has neither been subdued nor has it dissolved.

 

Similarly, the first part of Samadhi requires preparation. The means of

preparation are contemplation on the words of the sages and scriptures,

reflection on the nature of life, and meditation on the nature of

consciousness. While the preliminary stages require preparation and

concentration and the efforts to subdue the mind, in the final stage,

Samadhi can take place only by surrender and grace and not by effort. Like

in deep sleep, in Nirvikalpa Samadhi, the mind lies absorbed in the Self. It

is neither subdued (there being no other actor remaining to subdue it), nor

has it dissolved (as it will have a tendency to sprout up again due to

latent vasanas).

 

The term dissolution of mind is best reserved for Sahaj Samadhi. This

dissolution implies a finality. As the Buddhist say, Gone, gone, gone!

 

Love to all

Harsha