RE SExtus et al for Dan

[Guest guest]

Hi Dan,

 

I'm forwarding this to you from a conversation others are having that I

thought may be of interest to you. I don't understand any of it but reading

this has the effect of driving me out of mind for a few moments. Good

teaching 'device'. Joyce

 

Vasubandhu has exhausted this theme completely in his 'Karma siddhi

Prakarana' where he showed how it is impossible to show that a shadow moves

or even that it is the 'same' shadow one sees at any given moment/ He

demonstrates there how any view of 'movement' in either materialities or

ideas (consciousness, karma etc ) is a concept inherently flawed.

 

We can compare KSP V10 'moerover when a thing is stable it has no movement

And if it has no movement it is constantly stable

On the other hand if it is not stable it also has no movement.'

 

Shifu

 

 

" If a thing moves, it moves either in the place where it is or in

that where it is not; but it moves neither in the place where it is

(for it remains therein) nor in that where it is not (for it does not

exist therein); therefore nothing moves."

 

SEXTUS EMPIRICUS, Against the Physicists

[Guest guest]

Hi Joyce --

As understood here,

it boils down to this:

If nothing moves, nothing is being

said or heard.

So, the argument that nothing moves

resolves everything, but doesn't

leave itself there, so nothing is resolved.

The argument that everything is moving

leaves no way to remember what was

said an instant ago, if one is fully

moving with the movement. So again,

the argument resolves everything,

but leaves no way for itself to be

maintained, and resolves nothing.

Conclusion:

Whether still or moving, everything is

resolved as nothing is resolved:

there is nothing to resolve.

Resolution!

Love,

Dan

Hi Dan,

I'm forwarding this to you from a conversation others are having that

I

thought may be of interest to you. I don't understand any of it but

reading

this has the effect of driving me out of mind for a few moments.

Good

teaching 'device'. Joyce

Vasubandhu has exhausted this theme completely in his 'Karma siddhi

Prakarana' where he showed how it is impossible to show that a shadow

moves

or even that it is the 'same' shadow one sees at any given moment/

He

demonstrates there how any view of 'movement' in either

materialities or

ideas (consciousness, karma etc ) is a concept inherently flawed.

We can compare KSP V10 'moerover when a thing is stable it has no

movement

And if it has no movement it is constantly stable

On the other hand if it is not stable it also has no movement.'

Shifu

" If a thing moves, it moves either in the place where it is or

in

that where it is not; but it moves neither in the place where it is

(for it remains therein) nor in that where it is not (for it does

not

exist therein); therefore nothing moves."

SEXTUS EMPIRICUS, Against the Physicists

 

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