Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Wonderful! Yes - this is beautiful poetry and pointing, Joyce. Namaste. I guessed you might enjoy. Says it so much better than I ever could. Simplicity itself: there is no "realizing / not-realizing" duality ... This as is, is *it* as is -- Yes. "...the final freedom of nirvana, the Great Perfection (in Budhdist terms). Accessible in principle because it is already the deepest reality of the present, the actual condition of the most ordinary. You must look 'nakedly' at yourself, reversing the aim of seeing back upon yourself. You look for that fixed, independent, isolated self that feels like a kernal within you, out of which your drives and thoughts emerge. But when you turn 180 degrees to look within the looking, you find that nothing has intrinsic status, nothing stands independent in it's own right. We look nakedly and see nothing established there as a fixed thing in itself. Remember, this is in our seeing itself. We cannot even see anything substantial behind the seeing of nothing. We turn again and again, whirling around pointing to the point of origin of the pointing. Our looking becomes transparent to itself. Nothing is seen as independent or objective. And as this transparency spreads indefinately, 'subject' cannot be found." etc. This is from a commentary on Natural Liberation Through Naked Vision by Thurman. I'm currently sending commentary and NL teaching to a physicist friend who delights in it as do I and is the practice I attempt while sitting here posting. I posted a small bit to the Dzogchen list which seemed to alarm someone who considers things 'secret'. If you are interested in further bits I'll send but if not, that's fine too. I solicit your interest to read your own commentary. Love Joyce "To introduce the three-point entrance to this itself- Realize past mind as traceless, clear and void, Future mind as unproduced and new, And present awareness as staying natural, uncontrived. Thus knowing time in it's very ordinary way, When you nakedly regard yourself, Your looking is transparent, nothing to be seen, This is naked, immediate, clear intelligence, It is clear voidness with nothing established. Purity of clarity-voidness nonduality, Not permanent, free of any intrinsic status, Not annihilated, bright and distinct, Not a unity, multidiscerning clarity. Without plurality, indivisible, one in taste, Not derivative, self-aware, it is this very reality." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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