Guest guest Posted June 15, 2001 Report Share Posted June 15, 2001 Hi Harsha and Amanda, YUM!!! I like Japanese food too. Especially the slimy raw/half cooked stuff, although mostly-raw eggs are an acquired taste I haven't acquired yet and don't intend to acquire. (but the raw sea food... well, I am an otter after all!) Love, Mark ps I'm swimming in you Well, sometimes floating on top Othertimes drowning pps Hey how's that story of Sahajman! Sahajman!'s interactions with Jesus coming along? This reader eagerly awaits!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2001 Report Share Posted June 15, 2001 , "Mark W. Otter" <mark.otter@s...> wrote: > Hi Harsha and Amanda, > > YUM!!! I like Japanese food too. Especially the slimy raw/half cooked > stuff, although mostly-raw eggs are an acquired taste I haven't acquired > yet and don't intend to acquire. (but the raw sea food... well, I am an > otter after all!) > > Love, Mark > > ps > I'm swimming in you > Well, sometimes floating on top > Othertimes drowning > > pps Hey how's that story of Sahajman! Sahajman!'s interactions with Namaste, Yes the slimy raw sea-food, just another euphemism for the corpses of dead animals. It always amazes me how so many people can call themselves Buddhist yet not attempt to follow his teachings on not harming any sentient being. Low levels of awareness and the usual human hypocrisy I suppose Ah well.....But then Mahayana and Chinese/Japanese Buddhism is really Bon Po and a lot of pre Buddhistic stuff is it not?.......ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 In a message dated 06/16/2001 10:24:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, berkowd writes: << There's no one else here, into whom the thorn is being stuck. Sticking oneself over and over with the same thorn leaves a big gash. Trying to heal it with the thorn that "none of this really happened" just leaves two thorns missing each other. Rosily, Dan >> Dan....what about knowing that along the path....there comes a time...when the past...which is relived in every single moment until it is allowed to be released.....is finally realized....and therefore...the things occurring are not really happening except as a reaction to the past.... .....and in order to know this thorn of the past......it can be sometimes painful when an action or behavior is realized to be nothing but a duplication of the past and many times this is needed to happen for any realization to occur...and thus...... ...a thorn is used to remove and release a thorn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 There's no one else here, into whom the thorn is being stuck. Sticking oneself over and over with the same thorn leaves a big gash. Trying to heal it with the thorn that "none of this really happened" just leaves two thorns missing each other. Rosily, Dan Namaste, Yes the slimy raw sea-food, just another euphemism for the corpses of dead animals. It always amazes me how so many people can call themselves Buddhist yet not attempt to follow his teachings on not harming any sentient being. Low levels of awareness and the usual human hypocrisy I suppose Ah well.....But then Mahayana and Chinese/Japanese Buddhism is really Bon Po and a lot of pre Buddhistic stuff is it not?.......ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 In a message dated 06/16/2001 4:23:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, berkowd writes: << If the fruit is love and inclusion, unsplit original unity -- the taste is sweet. If the fruit is conflict and friction, there is nothing "original" -- just the old recycling, a taste of deadness ... ;-) Namaste, Dan >> A familiar seesaw I see...one or the other...is not inclusive of the whole.....but this thing with words..oh not so much yours...but everyone's, mine included.......I wonder if it's because human nature has the need for socialization... If ten people or a hundred or even a thousand........from all different parts of this world....were told to stand on the highest mountain nearest to them...to watch...a once in a lifetime event of the moon.....and then write about it or speak about it.....Well....each of them...would see it in a different way....and each of them...would write about it in a different way....The event or state of existence of the moon during its transformation would be as one ....but the perception of it....and the description of it....and the interpretation of it....would be different..and based on the filtering system of each.....And so it is for the words from all the others who came before us....The deep metaphor underneath the words would be similar....but not the actual words....And so all those on the many lists...try so hard to grasp the different layers of consciousness placing them into words...or trying to duplicate them from words of past lives......and it will never be done like that....The deepest layer of consciousness...has no participant as participation is known on this earth.......but the more shallow layers do...and it is the mind of the shallow layer trying to describe the deepest layer and trying to own or claim this state......which...is not possible...The only thing that can be expressed...is the sense of life within once it is known there is more than the obvious...and the "proof in the pudding"...is in the application of knowing this..consistently applied to life lived each and every day....Whew....did that feel wonderful to write.....Thanks for the push... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 Dan....what about knowing that along the path....there comes a time...when the past...which is relived in every single moment until it is allowed to be released.....is finally realized....and therefore...the things occurring are not really happening except as a reaction to the past.... Hi Goldy: A reaction of who? Where is the reaction occurring? ......and in order to know this thorn of the past...... Where does this thorn exist? it can be sometimes painful when an action or behavior is realized to be nothing but a duplication of the past and many times this is needed to happen for any realization to occur.. That painful realization is itself the repetition of thought. ..and thus...... ...a thorn is used to remove and release a thorn... Only if it is. And if it is not, then there is the pretense that a thorn is being used to remove a thorn. Nothing is being dropped, so nothing is released, and it is a sham conceptualization of using a thorn to release a thorn. If it is real, in the end, both thorns are dropped. And the end is the beginning. So, there is nothing inserted or removed, picked up or dropped. "The proof is in the pudding." "By their fruits you shall know them." If the fruit is love and inclusion, unsplit original unity -- the taste is sweet. If the fruit is conflict and friction, there is nothing "original" -- just the old recycling, a taste of deadness ... ;-) Namaste, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 Namaste, Dan >> A familiar seesaw I see...one or the other...is not inclusive of the whole.....but this thing with words..oh not so much yours...but everyone's, mine included.......I wonder if it's because human nature has the need for socialization... If ten people or a hundred or even a thousand........from all different parts of this world....were told to stand on the highest mountain nearest to them...to watch...a once in a lifetime event of the moon.....and then write about it or speak about it.....Well....each of them...would see it in a different way....and each of them...would write about it in a different way....The event or state of existence of the moon during its transformation would be as one ....but the perception of it....and the description of it....and the interpretation of it....would be different..and based on the filtering system of each.....And so it is for the words from all the others who came before us....The deep metaphor underneath the words would be similar....but not the actual words....And so all those on the many lists...try so hard to grasp the different layers of consciousness placing them into words...or trying to duplicate them from words of past lives......and it will never be done like that....The deepest layer of consciousness...has no participant as participation is known on this earth.......but the more shallow layers do...and it is the mind of the shallow layer trying to describe the deepest layer and trying to own or claim this state......which...is not possible...The only thing that can be expressed...is the sense of life within once it is known there is more than the obvious...and the "proof in the pudding"...is in the application of knowing this..consistently applied to life lived each and every day....Whew....did that feel wonderful to write.....Thanks for the push... Nice work, Goldy! Nice sharing the perception/moment arising in this (non)section of the Moment with the perception/moment arising in that (non) section ... Who .... me? Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 , "Mark W. Otter" <mark.otter@s...> wrote: > Hi Harsha and Amanda, > > YUM!!! I like Japanese food too. Especially the slimy raw/half cooked > stuff, although mostly-raw eggs are an acquired taste I haven't acquired > yet and don't intend to acquire. (but the raw sea food... well, I am an > otter after all!) Yummy ! (but not the raw eggs) Sushi is great ! A friend of mine says the raw meat contains much more life energy than cooked and I agree on that. But veggie sushi is great too. I wonder if Sahajman left the list and is unable to take up the gauntlet offered to him, Mark ? Love, Amanda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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