Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 11//1980 Nisaragadatta You can watch the body, so you are not the body. You can watch the breath, so you are not the vital breath. In the same way, you are not the consciousness: but you have to become one with the consciousness. As you stabilize in the consciousness, dispassion for the body and for the expressions through the body occurs spontaneously. It is a natural renunciation, not a deliberate one. Nov,18, 1980 Snip: Those who come here with the idea of getting knowledge, even spiritual knowledge, come here as individuals aspiring to get something; that is the real difficulty. The seeker must disappear. When you know your real nature the knowledge "I AM" remains, but that knowledge is unlimited. It is not possible for you to acquire knowledge, you are knowledge " I AM" remains, but that knowledge is unlimited. It is not possible for you to acquire knowledge, you are knowledge. You are what you are seeking. Your true being exists prior to the arising of any concept. Can you , as an object, understand something that existed prior to the arising of a concept? In the absence of consciousness is there any proof of the existence of anything? Consciousness itself is mind, is thought is all phenomena, all manifestation. Apprehending this is being dead to " I am the body" while alive. This kind of knowledge comes only in a rare cases, and is a very elusive kind of knowledge where no effort is necessary; in fact, effort itself is a hindrance. It is intuitive understanding. Q: Then would all spiritual discipline be dropped? A: At the highest level this is so; at the earlier levels you have to do your homework. Those who are able intuitively to grasp this lose their interest in worldly affairs. Having lost it, what will they get? Whatever they have lost, they will have lost as an ordinary person. but what they get in return will be fit a king. These who have comprehended and who have reached a certain stage will not ask for anything, but everything will come to them spontaneously. There will be no wish for it; nevertheless, it will be there. This does not happen for an individual--it happens for the universal manifestation, or for the one who has become one with his true nature. For the jnani only witnessing is taking place. You like you get much more? Love, Alton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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