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"For example, my mother has been a cancer care nurse for 25 years,

and

has described many cases where a patient, told by a doctor "there's

nothing more we can do for you," will quietly lay down and "pass on"

a few hours or even minutes afterwards."

 

The converse it true: Those who did not believe what the doctor said,

have lived many years after the doctor said they would.

 

 

 

 

 

, "Omkara" <coresite@h...> wrote:

>

> , Daniel Berkow <berkowd@u...> wrote:

> > Hi Tim!

> >

> > Okay, speak on ...

>

> > >How about "the desire to be the ultimate Subject?" :-)

> > >

> > >There's plenty i could say on that, but

> > >curious as to 'your input' :-).

>

>

> Dear Dan,

>

> Ok, here's how i see it...

>

> The desire to be (not to be anything in particular, just to BE)

lies

> at the root of life. The desire to be something in particular, as

> you mentioned, is the desire to attain something not already

> possessed.

>

> Yet the desire to *BE* is something "built in" to life itself. In

> fact, i maintain that this "root" desire is precisely what

maintains

> life as "separation" (as a physical body, as a separate entity in

> space and time).

>

> For example, my mother has been a cancer care nurse for 25 years,

and

> has described many cases where a patient, told by a doctor "there's

> nothing more we can do for you," will quietly lay down and "pass

on"

> a few hours or even minutes afterwards.

>

> So as i see it, the desire to BE is the 'root' of all other

desires.

> If for some reason that desire drops acausally, life (as commonly

> known) ends.

>

> It doesn't (necessarily) result in actual death of the body. If

that

> root desire is "cut" or drops off somehow (without any illness

> involved), something like a death occurs -- as described by Ramana

> Maharshi, U.G. Krishnamurti and some of the other sages.

>

> Following that 'death', desire itself is no more -- all desires

> are "Fulfilled."

>

> Anyway, just some ramblings and 'pointings'. They won't be useful

to

> anyone, because the dropping of "the root desire" is acausal --

there

> is no way for an 'entity' or a "me" to drop the desire to be (if

> causally related, it seems likely to result only in clinical

> depression and related dis-ease).

>

> Namaste,

>

> Tim

>

> , Daniel Berkow <berkowd@u...> wrote:

> > Hi Tim!

> >

> > Okay, speak on ...

>

> > >How about "the desire to be the ultimate Subject?" :-)

> > >

> > >There's plenty i could say on that, but

> > >curious as to 'your input' :-).

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