The unstruck sound ?

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

 

 

I wonder if maybe the socalled unstruck sound is the sound of

thevibration which the heart makes as it beats ?

 

When the vibration (sound) the beating makes is heard in the sensory

cortex of the brain (instead of the ears), you have the sensation of

hearing the gong sound/vibration. An expansion and coordination of

the sensory and motor cortices in the brain may be what leads to the

perception of non duality for the mind. The same way Ramana Maharshi

said that the body is a thought in the mind, it could be said that

the body is simply a perception in the sensory cortex. When the

expansion and coordination of the motor with the sensory cortext

reaches the area of the heart, the unstruck sound is sensed by the

sensory cortex, i.e. the mind.

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

[Guest guest]

, mumblecat@a... wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

>

> I wonder if maybe the socalled unstruck sound is the sound of

> thevibration which the heart makes as it beats ?

>

> When the vibration (sound) the beating makes is heard in the sensory

> cortex of the brain (instead of the ears), you have the sensation of

> hearing the gong sound/vibration. An expansion and coordination of

> the sensory and motor cortices in the brain may be what leads to the

> perception of non duality for the mind. The same way Ramana Maharshi

> said that the body is a thought in the mind, it could be said that

> the body is simply a perception in the sensory cortex. When the

> expansion and coordination of the motor with the sensory cortext

> reaches the area of the heart, the unstruck sound is sensed by the

> sensory cortex, i.e. the mind.

>

> Love,

>

> Amanda.

 

Namaste Amanda,

 

Perhaps it is the life force of the dead animals that you eat? Fish

have feelings and families too, big ones. Ramana says that for any

kind of yoga, vegetarianism is absolutely necessary. It is interesting

that you cherry pick quote him.

 

With regard to the Japanese and Chinese I don't know how deep is their

Buddhist thinking and how strong the prior superstition that seems to

permeate their practice. Meat eating, any kind of meat, is part of

their culuture but it is not Buddhism.....ONS...Tony.

[Guest guest]

Hi Amanda,

 

I feel that the sound you are speaking of is OM or the

manifestation - the sound of Life ( it includes heartbeat, sound of

the breath, all body function and everything else).

 

I feel that the Unstruck Sound is unspeakable Unity - the

Unknown.

 

One could say it is 'prior' to OM and 'after' OM with the

understanding that the words before and after do not have a time

connotation here.

 

 

And, these words cannot be taken for the Unstruck Sound -

Yet, if they are accurate...

 

 

OM Shanti OM

james

 

 

 

 

 

, mumblecat@a... wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

>

> I wonder if maybe the socalled unstruck sound is the sound of

> thevibration which the heart makes as it beats ?

>

> When the vibration (sound) the beating makes is heard in the sensory

> cortex of the brain (instead of the ears), you have the sensation of

> hearing the gong sound/vibration. An expansion and coordination of

> the sensory and motor cortices in the brain may be what leads to the

> perception of non duality for the mind. The same way Ramana Maharshi

> said that the body is a thought in the mind, it could be said that

> the body is simply a perception in the sensory cortex. When the

> expansion and coordination of the motor with the sensory cortext

> reaches the area of the heart, the unstruck sound is sensed by the

> sensory cortex, i.e. the mind.

>

> Love,

>

> Amanda.

[Guest guest]

Hi Amanda,

 

My previous post may seem to contradict Nisargadatta - I feel

that it doesn't - there is an attempt to more precisely describe the

known and the unknown.

 

 

 

Love

james

 

 

In the following comment is by David Gordon please note the

'silence' around the sound OM.

 

http://www.spiritsound.com/aum.html

 

 

'Seeking the unstruck sound '

 

Ancient teachings and modern science agree: you, I, all

living things, all things in existence are made up at their most

essential level of vibrating, pulsing energy.

 

For millennia, mystics have recounted their experience of

this energy, which is said to manifest in our hearing awareness as a

humming vibration around and within everything else.

 

In the Sanskrit tradition, this sound is called "Anahata

Nada," the "Unstruck Sound." Literally, this means "the sound that is

not made by two things striking together."

 

The point of this particular distinction is that all

ordinary audible sounds are made by at least two elements: bow and

string; drum and stick; two vocal cords; two lips against the

mouthpiece of the trumpet; the double reed of the oboe; waves against

the shore; wind against the leaves.

 

All sounds within our range of hearing are created by

things visible or invisible, striking each other or vibrating

together, creating pulsing waves of air molecules which our ears and

brain interpret as sound.

 

So, sound that is not made of two things striking together

is the sound of primal energy, the sound of the universe itself.

Joseph Campbell likens this unstruck vibration to the humming of an

electrical transformer, or the (to our ears) unheard hummings of atoms

and molecules.

 

And the ancients say that the audible sound which most

resembles this unstruck sound is the syllable OM.

 

Tradition has it that this ancient mantra is composed of

four elements: the first three are vocal sounds: A, U, and M. The

fourth sound, unheard, is the silence which begins and ends the

audible sound, the silence which surrounds it.

 

 

, "james traverse" <nisarga@c...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi Amanda,

>

> I feel that the sound you are speaking of is OM or the

> manifestation - the sound of Life ( it includes heartbeat, sound of

> the breath, all body function and everything else).

>

> I feel that the Unstruck Sound is unspeakable Unity - the

> Unknown.

>

> One could say it is 'prior' to OM and 'after' OM with the

> understanding that the words before and after do not have a time

> connotation here.

>

>

> And, these words cannot be taken for the Unstruck Sound -

> Yet, if they are accurate...

>

>

> OM Shanti OM

> james

>

>

>

>

>

> , mumblecat@a... wrote:

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> >

> > I wonder if maybe the socalled unstruck sound is the sound of

> > thevibration which the heart makes as it beats ?

> >

> > When the vibration (sound) the beating makes is heard in the

sensory

> > cortex of the brain (instead of the ears), you have the sensation

of

> > hearing the gong sound/vibration. An expansion and coordination of

> > the sensory and motor cortices in the brain may be what leads to

the

> > perception of non duality for the mind. The same way Ramana

Maharshi

> > said that the body is a thought in the mind, it could be said that

> > the body is simply a perception in the sensory cortex. When the

> > expansion and coordination of the motor with the sensory cortext

> > reaches the area of the heart, the unstruck sound is sensed by the

> > sensory cortex, i.e. the mind.

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Amanda.

[Guest guest]

, "james traverse" <nisarga@c...> wrote:

> I feel that the sound you are speaking of is OM or the

> manifestation - the sound of Life ( it includes heartbeat, sound of

> the breath, all body function and everything else).

>

> I feel that the Unstruck Sound is unspeakable Unity - the

> Unknown.

 

 

Yes, that is the spiritual view of the sound and not something I

disagree with.

 

However, the sound may also have a medical explanation which would

strip some of the superstition and mystery off OM and yoga.

 

 

Love,

 

Amanda.