ressurrection/reincarnation

[Guest guest]

dear brothers and sisters....recent events on several of the lists i

enjoy have errupted into a flurry of discussion over

censorship....what is and is not proper commentary.....some offended

ones have left.....others have announced that they are censoring

members they object to.....mark found himself in a position of not

even wanting to even post....this reaction upon meditation reveals

itself to me as a rejection of love arising.....a rejection of the

beloved.....of multiplicity.....a rejection of a non-dual point of

view.....so come what may....i return to you just as i am....one

pilgrim among the many seekers....grateful to be among the presence

of many sincere seekers of the way.....here on some thoughts on the

ressurection/reincarnation.....and of course, the topic of censorship

is implicitely there.....^^~~~~~

 

further up and further in,

 

white wolfe

 

 

the bardo states

 

It is you who think that you will be reborn.

-Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

in lower consciousness

these are and are not so

i have heard them

i hear the ten thousand

the demonic wailing of the undead

the angelic choiring of the same ones arisen

even now the ten thousand

i do and do not hear them

and this is and is not so too

in higher consciousness

birth and death are real and not real

i have been into the nothingness

i listen to the sound of my beloved laughing

within the beckoning brilliance just beyond

within and beyond the seamless canopy of darkness

even now i hear my beloved laughing

she is laughing with and at me and i at and with her

and this too is and is not so also

for love always dying love is love arising love for

ever higher states of consciousness

 

we who yet remain are here and not here

that the beloved may arise from within us

falling into darkness to streak ever brightly

further into the deeper darkness just beyond

 

endlessly and without effort

i love you, my dark one, you love me

without effort and endlessly

we pilgrim darkly into what lies beyond

 

mark christopher valentine

(june 18, 2001)

[Guest guest]

Hi Wolf,

> dear brothers and sisters....recent events on several of the lists i

>enjoy have errupted into a flurry of discussion over censorship....what

>is and is not proper commentary.....some offended ones have

>left.....others have announced that they are censoring members they object

>to

>snip<

 

When you say censoring, are you referring to just using a filter to move

certain posts to the trash as they come in? If so, I think you have

misunderstood the meaning of censorship.

 

It's a sad fact of this human existence - and nothing to do with higher

levels at all - that I simply don't always have time to read everything on

the lists I to. And I never promised to read every post.

 

Just now, I've missed several days because of a problem my ISP had. I'm

way behind and just reading those posts that catch my eye by the subject or

author... and trying to catch up.

 

So why should I feel obligated to read posts by someone whose posts almost

always seem to me a waste of time? Well, I don't. The posts are

violent, not to mention boring, so I just sidestep them... let them go on

by.

 

But I don't try to prevent anyone else from reading posts from any person

or any list - THAT would be censorship.

 

I read this post because it had your name on it. Anything wrong with that?

And there are other posts that I already know I don't care to read...

so I filter them. Certainly improves on the volume problem. ))

 

Love,

Dharma