Those 'good'" vibrations

[Guest guest]

>

Ah, the mirror's up --

since Tim's expression was

so distinctly *un*cluttered

there is no other clutter

you could possibly be

referring to other than

what you see in your own

reflection!

Yes, but...where else could one encounter

such delicious pedantry

and utter ridiculousness

so consistent in expression?

Attempting to have discussion

with fixation is like

walking through mud.

So far, everyone

has been sucked in!

And no one likes

mud on their feet.

Congratulations, Tony, you

have finally transcended the

incessantly pedantic and have

now managed to embody the

utterly ridiculous -- all the

while chiding others for your

own invention: "verbal non-

dualism." Jai Guruji

Wannabe! :-)

[Guest guest]

, "Joyce Short" <insight@s...>

snip.

Namaste All,

 

Actually I had many chances to be a teacher on this but refused. The

times that I did give public talks, or published articles, were given

as personal favours to friends who had requested. I have no desire to

be a guru or run a list with my name on, or any other's name on. I am

not qualified to do this, I am amazed at those that do. I write here

and other lists and that is like chatting, and it isn't that deep.

 

Linda hit the nail on the head about my missives. Seva and

participaction is necessary. If you really want to see God while your

waiting for your 'going within' results, then look at any person or

animal. Plus a personal sadhana is necessary otherwise it is just

sterile intellectual enquiry, (not 'Self enquiry'), and Vndism.

 

Many have read of, if not realised, the ultimate truth, that there is

non but Nirguna/Nirvana but it is still real whilst one is in it. One

doesn't have to 'believe' it but one has to do the karma.

 

Unless Sri Sankaracharya is wrong and I highly doubt that.

 

Ramana, Buddha and others assume a certain amount of spiritual

awareness and sadhana. Read about them!!!!And their advice and tenets

and you will see I have not said anything different, or contradictory.

 

My mirror is not clean, but I know when I finally clean the

mirror,'awareness sheath'. I will find no mirror at all. In the

meantime being helped by the projected illusion of Saguna Brahman is

fine with me.

 

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. A million lifetimes of Vndism

will not achieve anything without a purified vijnanamayakosa or

whatever name you want to allocate. This all about purifying

vibrations. The body, the mind, the sheaths.

 

Om Namah Sivaya.....Tony.

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:33:09 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery

writes:

> , "Joyce Short" <insight@s...>

> snip.

> Namaste All,

>

> Actually I had many chances to be a teacher on this but refused.

 

The title doesn't matter,

the stance and demeanor do.

> The

> times that I did give public talks, or published articles, were

> given

> as personal favours to friends who had requested. I have no desire

> to

> be a guru or run a list with my name on, or any other's name on. I

> am not qualified to do this,

 

I agree.

> I am amazed at those that do. I write here

> and other lists and that is like chatting, and it isn't that deep.

 

I'll say.

>

> Linda hit the nail on the head about my missives. Seva and

> participaction is necessary.

 

If it is indeed seva, and

not just a redirected urge

to instruct.

> If you really want to see God while your

> waiting for your 'going within' results, then look at any person or

> animal. Plus a personal sadhana is necessary otherwise it is just

> sterile intellectual enquiry, (not 'Self enquiry'), and Vndism.

 

....and the above *isn't* a

teaching attempt, guruji,

er, I mean, Tony?

>

> Many have read of, if not realised, the ultimate truth, that there

> is non but Nirguna/Nirvana but it is still real whilst one is in it.

> One doesn't have to 'believe' it but one has to do the karma.

 

As if there is any evading

"the karma?"

>

> Unless Sri Sankaracharya is wrong and I highly doubt that.

 

....and that, sir, comprises

a belief!

>

> Ramana, Buddha and others assume a certain amount of spiritual

> awareness and sadhana. Read about them!!!!And their advice and

> tenets and you will see I have not said anything different, or

> contradictory.

 

Ah, but the operative

assumption is that these

Famous Dead Guys[tm] spoke

experientially. On the

other hand one gets the

clear impression of pure

parroting from your schtick.

What distinguishes the

pedant from the guru is not

knowledge, it is

authenticity. Brahman has

no "tenets."

>

> My mirror is not clean,

 

Confession noted, yet the

compulsion to instruct

remains.

> but I know when I finally clean the

> mirror,'awareness sheath'. I will find no mirror at all.

 

There's that inveterate

projection into the fictional

future -- iow, *belief*!

> In the

> meantime being helped by the projected illusion of Saguna Brahman is

> fine with me.

 

I'm sure *multitudes* will

derive comfort from your

approval.

>

> A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

 

Exactly -- and the same goes

for a head *stuffed full of

"knowledge"*! Knowledge is

dead, stored data.

 

> A million lifetimes of Vndism

 

There has yet to be even one

such incarnation, since

"Vndism" is your invention!

> will not achieve anything without a purified vijnanamayakosa or

> whatever name you want to allocate. This all about purifying

> vibrations. The body, the mind, the sheaths.

 

Give it a rest, Tony, please,

if only for your own karma.

>

> Om Namah Sivaya.....Tony.

>

Yeah, right....

 

 

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