Nisaragadatta January 11, 1981

[Guest guest]

Q: The spiritual experiences which I have, are they something

which should not be there? What is it?

N: It is all entertainment. You are present here; is your body

not the result of someone's entertainment? so long as you know that

the experiences are only appearances in consciousness, it is all

right.

Understanding is not a matter of time. If you really

apperceive the truth, it is simple and quickly grasped.

The conscious presence depends on the body, and the body is

nothing but the sperm and ovum, so where is this "you?" This body is

like an instrument that says, "I Am", like an announcer. Presently

you think that you are the body-mind. and whatever concept you have

collected are flowing out. When you begin spirituality, you reject

the body-mind with "I am not that." Then you come to the "I AM"

only, without words. Then you are everything. you are not confined to

the body.

Because of the instrument of the body, that feeling of

consciousness is there and I, the Absolute, am not that.

Having stabilized in the consciousness, the next step is to

be in a position to observe the consciousness, and all the play that

is happening in the consciousness, just to understand. Attachment to

the body and to the consciousness is very strong, to get rid of it is

very difficult.

The birth principle, the chemical around which the body

formation takes place, has no from or design and actually didn't

exist. That non-existing thing suddenly came into existence. What

is the validity of its existence? It is an apparition only , it

can't be the truth. That's why I dare talk like this. This is a big

hoax a big fraud, created out of nothingness. Can you create

something out of nothing?

What ever I said is securely planted in that birth principle

of yours, you cannot extract it. In due course it will proliferate

into knowledge.

I don't want life, even for a moment, but in that momentary

life there are so many lives.

I am not afraid of death. With death the imperfection is

removed. Consciousness, the stigma of imperfection is gone. What

remain is total perfection.

There is no guarantee that I will meet you tomorrow, but the

reality is that there is no separation at all between you and me,

because we are one. Do not imagine any separation.