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Hi Omkara,

 

Thanks - I see your point about defining 'nondualists'.

 

- If there is a nondualist then it isn't nondualism.

 

So does that mean that nondualists nondualism is an oxymoron?

 

If yes, what implications does it have on the 'Vndists'

commentary?

 

 

Love,

james

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Omkara" <coresite@h...> wrote:

>

> Hi James,

>

> , "james traverse" <nisarga@c...> wrote:

> > Basically I agree with Tony on this one - a nondualist

> > is 'one' who practices 'nondualism'.

>

> Could you define 'nondualism' in this context?

>

> > (I am not accusing you of this because it is VERY clear in your

> > posts that you have many problem with the word

>

> It just sounds 'weird' :-). In fact, i would go so far as to say

> there is no duality or nonduality... these are just 'isms' or

> philosophies... Reality 'knows' nothing of any of this :-).

>

> > It also appears (to me) that 'you' have been able to see beyond

> > the non-dual words because of the 'non-dual' words.

>

> i don't know. It could be entirely acausal and accidental, or even

a

> matter of 'destiny'. i have given up the search for answers to

these

> and other questions... it can be fun to speculate occasionally,

> that's all.

>

> > And, I say the above so that I can say that I feel that there is

> > something " " that is greater than the sum of the parts, which

> > are non-duality and unity.

>

> Yes, i like the way you put that, 'greater than the sum of the

> parts'. The parts are mental - the mind creates the divisions.

> The "sum of the parts" is still just a bunch of parts.

>

> > " " includes and is beyond both.

>

> Nicely put... yet knowing of " " definitely precludes all

> attachment and clinging.

>

> > You, Dan and I (and I am sure others)have expressed

discontent

> > with all labels for good reason - they are not the thing - yet

they

> > can point beyond themselves

>

> i'm not sure about the term "nondualist" though. "Nondualism"

> or "nonduality" is one thing... "nondualist" is just a strange one,

> in fact in light of 'nonduality' (no "ists" anywhere) is in fact

> nonsensical.

>

> Namaste,

>

> Omkara / Tim

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