Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 Namaste All, The reason Gautama was called the Buddha was because he had a purified Buddhi. Yes we are talking of the awareness sheath again. This has to be purified to accept the reflection of the Atma to enable final realisation. Verbal non -dualism won't do this, Why? Because thoughts and vibrations are the same thing. Words can only describe ideas that have qualities or gunas; ie. the thought or idea of non-duality. So even 'Who am I?', is a flow of thought, and cannot be absolute. Seekers are looking for knowledge not seeking to realise what is ignorance. Only in a purified Buddhi can the 'Self', be realised, Moksha is not possible without this purification. Which naturally entails sadhana. Vibrations are thoughtlike, and as such prevent the purification of the Buddhi. Even the thoughtflow, 'I Am', is impeded by these vibrations. They are all individual and have to be removed or cleansed. Therefore one stream of thought at the mental level may be non-dual but there are myriads of others. This is why the Buddhi has to be purified otherwise one is left with a stream of non-dual thought, but moksha prevented by other vibrations. This is one of the reasons Bhakti is much simpler than the jnana path, or the more difficult Vndist. The cleansing is done by purification and surrender. OM Namah Sivaya.....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: > Namaste All, Few among men are those who cross to the farther shore. The rest, the bulk of men, only run up and down the hither bank. But those who act according to the perfectly taught Dhamma will cross the realm of Death, so difficult to cross. Dhammapada 85-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: > Only in a purified Buddhi can the 'Self', be realised, Moksha is > not possible without this purification. Nonsense... clarity is *everywhere*, the Self is everywhere and everpresent, like the sun in the sky. It is in fact impossible to escape Freedom. The reason few seem to realize "the sunlight is everywhere" is simply because attention is attached to the objects illuminated by "the sunlight." If attention should divert even for a moment, a "taste" will be had -- such an authentic "taste" is enough to make any sadhana effortless after that. Now, let's take Jesus, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara and Nisargadatta. Out of those five, i know only one who practiced any 'sadhana' at all. "Realization" is acausal -- "To whom 'it' chooses, the Self reveals Itself." If sadhana is approached in the spirit of "seeking something I do not have," it could go on for a million lifetimes with no result. That is because the Self is already Realized, and all paths "leading toward" actually "lead away." The only 'method' recommended here is "be still," and echoed by Ramana Maharshi: "Your duty is TO BE, and not to be this or that. 'I am that I am' sums up the whole truth: the method is summarized in 'be still.'" -- Sri Ramana Maharshi Namaste, Omkara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 , "Omkara" <coresite@h...> wrote: > , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: > > Only in a purified Buddhi can the 'Self', be realised, Moksha is > > not possible without this purification. > > Nonsense... clarity is *everywhere*, the Self is everywhere and > > Now, let's take Jesus, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara and > Nisargadatta. Out of those five, i know only one who practiced > any 'sadhana' at all. "Realization" is acausal -- "To whom 'it' > chooses, the Self reveals Itself." > > If sadhana is approached in the spirit of "seeking something I do not > have," it could go on for a million lifetimes with no result. Namaste Tim, Everyone of those you mention did sadhana, Ramana around the mountain and in the cave, Jesus in the desert and Tibet/India, Sankara had a guru, Buddhi did the most extreme sadhana, eventually ending up under the Bhodi tree. Whether they were ripe from previous lives or not is immaterial they set the example of sadhana for the ordinary seeker. Again the Vndists are building up a great thought wave that will only smash against the rocks of samskaric vibrations, if the Buddhi is not purified........ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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