Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 Namaste All, It depends on whether we eat the apple from the left or the right or just core it.haha. 'Who am I', isn't japa at all but an 'inner feeling'. Yes thought is just a stream, and mind is just experiencing this stream. However for those with a less than developed 'awareness sheath', isn't that all of us? It is necessary to do sadhan to purify the Buddhi so to speak, this weakens instead of reinforces the samskaras, enabling them to be further fried in meditation. With regard to Bhakti, at an early level, Bhakti is a good vehicle if the person hasn't got that far into Jnana. Admittedly they both end up at the same place, but intially for most Bhakti is a quicker vehicle. For one hasn't to wonder why one is doing something, one just does it. Ramana's sadhana presupposes a certain amount of spiritual awareness, otherwise it is just japa, not an inward or all encompassing feeling. In that respect a thought wave without removal of samskaras is impeded so to speak. OM Namah Sivaya.....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: Namaste All, I should have said surface japa. For true japa is total absorption in the mantra and meditation.....ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:34:11 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery writes: > , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: > Namaste All, > > I should have said surface japa. For true japa is total absorption > in the mantra and meditation.....ONS....Tony. > Perhaps you "should" have simply been silent in the first place -- it's something worthy of your consideration, eh? http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:34:11 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> > writes: > > > , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: > > Namaste All, > > > > I should have said surface japa. For true japa is total absorption > > in the mantra and meditation.....ONS....Tony. > > > Perhaps you "should" have > simply been silent in the > first place -- it's > something worthy of your > consideration, eh? Namaste, Learning how to deal with the responses here, is a whole sadhana by itself. I Presume you are only talking for yourself?....ONS...Tony. > > > http://come.to/realization > http://www.atman.net/realization > http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm > http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm > ______________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:51:50 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery writes: > , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:34:11 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> > > writes: > > > > > , "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> > wrote: > > > Namaste All, > > > > > > I should have said surface japa. For true japa is total > absorption > > > in the mantra and meditation.....ONS....Tony. > > > > > Perhaps you "should" have > > simply been silent in the > > first place -- it's > > something worthy of your > > consideration, eh? > > Namaste, > > Learning how to deal with the responses here, is a whole sadhana by > itself. It can be, that for sure! > I Presume you are only talking for yourself?....ONS...Tony. > > Why would that matter? The suggestion either has merit or doesn't, who cares where it came from? http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 Dear Bruce, > "should" have simply been > silent in the first place Yes, and maybe at some point speak from silence. Thanks Bruce. Love, Wim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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