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Hi Bruce,

 

That's clearly connected with the "ability" to project a "future"

(which seems to be one of the prime 'causes' of

suffering). "Forseeing" anything is projecting from "the past" or

the known (memory).

 

It seems likely that 'other species' don't have this "ability" (to

project a 'future') and so do not suffer from fear of death.

 

i see a difference between "fear as an instinctual response" (the

fight/flight mechanism) and "fear as experienced by imagination and

the idea of future." The former seems connected with physical

(bodily) survival, the latter with nothing but suffering.

 

That's not to say that the instinctual response is the only

possibility (referring to JB's post in particular)... only

that "appropriate fear" seems connected with actual risk of physical

harm, "right now." Seen here, all other fears are the result of

projecting an imaginary 'future'.

 

Namaste,

 

Omkara / Tim

 

, Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote:

>

> Although I agree it doesn't

> really amount to "higher" or

> "lower," there seems to be a

> generalized qualitative

> difference between humans

> and other mammals regarding

> mentation style and what is

> feared -- it is said that

> only the human foresees and

> fears his/her own death, and

> that seems to be particular

> mental capability(?) that has

> profound emotional and

> spiritual consequences.

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On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:30:36 -0000 "Omkara" <coresite writes:

>

> Hi Bruce,

 

Hey, Timji!

>

> That's clearly connected with the "ability" to project a "future"

> (which seems to be one of the prime 'causes' of

> suffering). "Forseeing" anything is projecting from "the past" or

> the known (memory).

 

Precisely!

>

> It seems likely that 'other species' don't have this "ability" (to

> project a 'future') and so do not suffer from fear of death.

 

Bullseye!

>

> i see a difference between "fear as an instinctual response" (the

> fight/flight mechanism) and "fear as experienced by imagination and

> the idea of future." The former seems connected with physical

> (bodily) survival, the latter with nothing but suffering.

 

Agreed.

>

> That's not to say that the instinctual response is the only

> possibility (referring to JB's post in particular)... only

> that "appropriate fear" seems connected with actual risk of physical

> harm, "right now." Seen here, all other fears are the result of

> projecting an imaginary 'future'.

 

The same is seen here.

>

> Namaste,

>

> Omkara / Tim

 

Right back atcha -- Bruce

>

> , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote:

> >

> > Although I agree it doesn't

> > really amount to "higher" or

> > "lower," there seems to be a

> > generalized qualitative

> > difference between humans

> > and other mammals regarding

> > mentation style and what is

> > feared -- it is said that

> > only the human foresees and

> > fears his/her own death, and

> > that seems to be particular

> > mental capability(?) that has

> > profound emotional and

> > spiritual consequences.

>

 

 

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