Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:29:52 -0000 "Omkara" <coresite writes: > > Hi Bruce, > > , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > > It doesn't make sense how something unknown could be feared, > > > since by definition it is unknown -- > > > > That doesn't stop us from > > imagining what it might be > > like or buying into some > > scriptural or literary > > version of it, whether it's > > reincarnation as an insect > > or a tortured prisoner, or > > the Christian version of > > "hell." > > Seen here, these imaginings still stem from the known, although > perhaps not "fear of the known coming to an end" (e.g. your point is > taken). Thank you. > > Even the idea of "the unknown" comes from the known... there is no > such cognizable thing as "the unknown," thus it doesn't seem to be > something "fearable." > And yet a great many of us seem to manage it. :-) http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > Even the idea of "the unknown" comes from the known... there is > > no such cognizable thing as "the unknown," thus it doesn't seem > > to be something "fearable." > > > And yet a great many of us > seem to manage it. :-) "A man will give up any pleasure you like, but he will not give up his suffering" -- Georges Ivanovitch Gurdjieff Shalom, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 The body is hard wired to survive. Many people who have suffered severe depression say upon coming out of it that they would have comitted suicide but for that instinct for survival which was there even through the pain....that too is what has kept me alive the last ten years, that and hope for a day when there will no longer be this pain and suffering, this mental torture. Michael Tony O'Clery wrote: > > , "Omkara" <coresite@h...> wrote: > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > > Ah, but it does this foreseeing > > > based on direct experience, and > > > there's no argument over an > > > ability to learn in this way. > > > Human fear of death is based on > > > an attempt to imagine the > > > unimaginable, not on direct > > > experience of death! > > > > I would say rather than "fear of the unknown," the human fear of > > death consists more of "fear of the known coming to an end." > > > > It doesn't make sense how something unknown could be feared, since > by > > definition it is unknown -- but fear of loss of continuity and death > > > of the person(ality) or the "me" (which is the known) makes plenty > of > > sense. > > > > Namaste, > > > > Tim > > Namaste Tim et al, > > Fear of death is not fear of the unknown per se. It is fear of being > separated from one's attachments, plust tanha or the thirst for life. > If this was not so people who have meditated and astral and mental > travelled would have no fear impulse, for the unknown is > known....ONS....Tony. > > Sponsor > [Check out great fares at Orbitz!] > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and > subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not > different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the > nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always > Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart > to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the > Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It > Self. Welcome all to a. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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