Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Dear Michael, , Michael <michael@p...> wrote: > The body is hard wired to survive. > Many people who have suffered severe depression > say upon coming out of it that they would have > comitted suicide but for that instinct for survival > which was there even through the pain....that too > is what has kept me alive the last ten years, that > and hope for a day when there will no longer be this > pain and suffering, this mental torture. When we have problems like heart disease, breathing difficulties and chronic pain, most do not hesitate to seek medical attention. It sounds to me (from this posting and Email conversations) like you may have a depressive or panic/anxiety syndrome, which is also physical and related to levels of chemicals in the brain like serotonin. Why not seek medical attention for it? Medical science has advanced to the point where it could be possible that the last 10 years of suffering might be "cured" within a few months, with readily available antidepressants. There is no stigma in seeking medical attention for a possible medical problem. Won't you consider it... ? Love, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Hi Tim: I used to be on Xanax. This seemed to calm my nerves somewhat. The problem was that whenever a stressful situation was apparent, I would pop two or three instead of the one prescribed. Visions of Elvis Presley laying dead on the bathroom floor from an overdose of prescription uppers and downers stopped me from continuing down that path. Now, I have good days and bad days. The bad days make me appreciate the good days. I will give your suggestion some thought. As always I appreciate the synergy between us. Michael Omkara wrote: > > Dear Michael, > > , Michael <michael@p...> wrote: > > The body is hard wired to survive. > > Many people who have suffered severe depression > > say upon coming out of it that they would have > > comitted suicide but for that instinct for survival > > which was there even through the pain....that too > > is what has kept me alive the last ten years, that > > and hope for a day when there will no longer be this > > pain and suffering, this mental torture. > > When we have problems like heart disease, breathing difficulties and > chronic pain, most do not hesitate to seek medical attention. It > sounds to me (from this posting and Email conversations) like you may > have a depressive or panic/anxiety syndrome, which is also physical > and related to levels of chemicals in the brain like serotonin. > > Why not seek medical attention for it? Medical science has advanced > to the point where it could be possible that the last 10 years of > suffering might be "cured" within a few months, with readily > available antidepressants. > > There is no stigma in seeking medical attention for a possible > medical problem. Won't you consider it... ? > > Love, > > Tim > > Sponsor > [Check out great fares at Orbitz!] > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and > subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not > different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the > nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always > Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart > to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the > Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It > Self. Welcome all to a. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Tim: Are the antidepressants a cure or a dressing? Will I ever get to the root problem if I numb my thoughts with drugs? Will I go through the rest of my life not really feeling but feeling what the drugs tell me I should feel? I don't know. Michael Michael wrote: > > Hi Tim: > > I used to be on Xanax. > > This seemed to calm my nerves somewhat. > The problem was that whenever a stressful > situation was apparent, I would pop two or > three instead of the one prescribed. > > Visions of Elvis Presley laying dead on > the bathroom floor from an overdose of > prescription uppers and downers stopped me > from continuing down that path. > > Now, I have good days and bad days. > > The bad days make me appreciate the good days. > > I will give your suggestion some thought. > > As always I appreciate the synergy between us. > > Michael > > Omkara wrote: > > > > Dear Michael, > > > > , Michael <michael@p...> wrote: > > > The body is hard wired to survive. > > > Many people who have suffered severe depression > > > say upon coming out of it that they would have > > > comitted suicide but for that instinct for survival > > > which was there even through the pain....that too > > > is what has kept me alive the last ten years, that > > > and hope for a day when there will no longer be this > > > pain and suffering, this mental torture. > > > > When we have problems like heart disease, breathing difficulties and > > chronic pain, most do not hesitate to seek medical attention. It > > sounds to me (from this posting and Email conversations) like you > may > > have a depressive or panic/anxiety syndrome, which is also physical > > and related to levels of chemicals in the brain like serotonin. > > > > Why not seek medical attention for it? Medical science has advanced > > to the point where it could be possible that the last 10 years of > > suffering might be "cured" within a few months, with readily > > available antidepressants. > > > > There is no stigma in seeking medical attention for a possible > > medical problem. Won't you consider it... ? > > > > Love, > > > > Tim > > > > Sponsor > > [Check out great fares at Orbitz!] > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, > > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and > > subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not > > different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of > the > > nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always > > Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the > Heart > > to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the > > Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It > > Self. Welcome all to a. > > > > > > Sponsor > [Check out great fares at Orbitz!] > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and > subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not > different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the > nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always > Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart > to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the > Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It > Self. Welcome all to a. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Dear Michael, Please consider to look into this again. Both Tim and Bruce have said very worthwhile ideas, which I support. Things change in 10 years. Remember that most of these chemical imbalances are actually genetic and hereditary and look at your other family members. (Yikes! huh?) A good question to ask is... Why do you assume that the thoughts you ARE having are more real to begin with? Mine certainly weren't, Michael. As one who has been thru this and worse, I can tell you that I look back on my "crazy thoughts" as being relatively more UNreal. Being back to a normal functioning brain is the best way to sort out what is the root cause. First, it is a myth that the drugs make you feel anything. Antidepresssants are not tranquilizers that numb a person out, nor are they uppers. For true mood altering drugs, see the recreational ones. What effective anti-depressants do is remove the chemical imbalance that makes you feel depressed is all, they do not create new thoughts. If they are given to a quote "normal" person, there is no effect whatsoever on mood or thoughts. Please do some research on the web. I went thru this with my husband who had also given up on any drug treatment, because 10 years ago prozac made him feel crazier. A good doctor will keep trying till he finds the right medication to alleviate your symptoms. Today there are better alternatives, and many more chices. Its possible that you did not actually have an anxiety disorder. I would be glad to talk more on or off list, if you have any questions. Love, Gloria - Michael Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:21 AM Re: Michael-Re: Viorica, I disagree with Balsekar Tim:Are the antidepressants a cureor a dressing?Will I ever get to the root problemif I numb my thoughts with drugs?Will I go through the rest of my lifenot really feeling but feeling what thedrugs tell me I should feel?I don't know.MichaelMichael wrote:snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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