Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 On 6/28/01 at 1:32 PM Omkara wrote: ºWho is here to let them die? The same one that takes another pet when the old one dies? ºIn order to let, there has to be "I" ºWithout an "I" no one to cry, ºno one to feel the feelings die... [...] And no one to get another pet when the old one dies? How can something like "I" be perceived? Only when the topic has relevance. With a "purified" buddhi (hi Tony), the logical response could have been "one set of tendencies not necessarily harmonizes with another". Allowance to one set (=letting) for another is but a shift of balance. º ºCan't see the "I" for what it is (not) ºNobody to do that, the topic gets hot... No, when feelings die, the first thing to notice is cold - even when it is hot... Never been speaking to dying ones? But who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Hi Jan, , "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote: > On 6/28/01 at 1:32 PM Omkara wrote: > > ºWho is here to let them die? > > The same one that takes another pet when the old one dies? It was only a series of verses that arose in response to 'your verses'... consider it only a sort of echo, no further 'meaning' :-). > How can something like "I" be perceived? > Only when the topic has relevance. "Hi List" seems to have logical relevance as a greeting when posting to a list an advertisement (for a website), does it not? Please forgive, no sleep last night (the sleep cycle overlaps night/day occasionally) and the body/mind seems to be 'working' like a clogged drain pipe :-). > With a "purified" buddhi (hi Tony), the logical response could have > been "one set of tendencies not necessarily harmonizes with > another". Luckily, " " isn't very familiar with logic, especially when expressing as "just a poem not making much sense" :-). Also perhaps when expressing as a major earthquake and such... 'logic' goes out the window. > No, when feelings die, the first thing to notice is cold - even > when it is hot... > Never been speaking to dying ones? No, never have... but have "been one"... the cold was only noticed for a moment before going into nirvikalpa samadhi, and for a moment when "coming out"... > But who cares Indeed... <laugh>. Joy & Happiness, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 On 6/28/01 at 10:00 PM Omkara wrote: ºHi Jan, º º, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote: º> On 6/28/01 at 1:32 PM Omkara wrote: º> º> ºWho is here to let them die? º> º> The same one that takes another pet when the old one dies? º ºIt was only a series of verses that arose in response to 'your ºverses'... consider it only a sort of echo, no further 'meaning' :-). Hi Tim, echoes are appreciated - the only suggestion to be 'alive' yet º º> How can something like "I" be perceived? º> Only when the topic has relevance. º º"Hi List" seems to have logical relevance as a greeting when posting ºto a list an advertisement (for a website), does it not? Thanks for that - the idea "this is an advertisement" doesn't arise, only messages are observed, having originated from some biological unit, aimed at other such units. º ºPlease forgive, no sleep last night (the sleep cycle overlaps ºnight/day occasionally) and the body/mind seems to be 'working' like ºa clogged drain pipe :-). When not blaming, there is nothing to forgive - and there is some familiarity with unruly mind-bodies. This one even has to write its 'survival manual' in case sensory feedback will be insufficient for "normal" functioning - no scriptures on that º º> With a "purified" buddhi (hi Tony), the logical response could have º> been "one set of tendencies not necessarily harmonizes with º> another". º ºLuckily, " " isn't very familiar with logic, especially when ºexpressing as "just a poem not making much sense" :-). Also perhaps ºwhen expressing as a major earthquake and such... 'logic' goes out ºthe window. That is why there is a model with veils/sheaths as onion-peels. Without the sentient entity, only logic remains for expression and some sense for a little humor, defying logic. º º> No, when feelings die, the first thing to notice is cold - even º> when it is hot... º> Never been speaking to dying ones? º ºNo, never have... but have "been one"... the cold was only noticed ºfor a moment before going into nirvikalpa samadhi, and for a moment ºwhen "coming out"... Yes, that can be read in various books on Kundalini Yoga too... The sense of "cold", precluding some 'remarkable' events can be quite long... º º> But who cares º ºIndeed... <laugh>. Joy and Light, Jan ºJoy & Happiness, º ºTim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 There have never been any Bodhi-three. There doesn't stand any clear mirror (of the mind). When - actually nothing at all really exists, where can then the dust fall down? - Hui Neng >In order to let, there has to be "I" >Without an "I" no one to cry, >no one to feel the feelings die... > >Can't see the "I" for what it is (not) >Nobody to do that, the topic gets hot... > >Nobody to do anything at all >Nothing to do but face a wall... > >Facing the wall, only futility, >The end of life and death, you see... >When all is futile and without hope >Not "hopeless" either, just end of rope... > >No way to get 'there' from 'here' is seen >So remaining 'here only' and just BE-ing > >'Rebirth' into a different state... >"feelings" are moot -- so is the date. >Saguna, nirguna... what is that? >more concepts to put into your hat? > >All beliefs will drop and you will see >not through some books, but 'directly' > >Knowing of " ", all questions drop >all of them "Answered" in a single pop >All desires fulfilled, so nothing to do >Just 'leisure' -- no rhyme here! ;-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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