Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Hi Omkara aka Tim: Thanks for you views, but remember they are just emanating from your conditioning and not the truth. , "Omkara" <coresite@h...> wrote: > > > Yes, I want to be like Sir Edmond Hilary, who had Mars an Pluto > > conjunct in the 8 house, so I read. When he climbed Everest > > successfully he shouted out 'WE KNOCKED THE BASTARD OFF" > > Trouble is, the model of "achieving a goal" (so common in everyday > life) does not apply to "Moksha" or "Realization." In fact > (relatively speaking), any movement "toward" is actually > movement "away." So your are saying that my goal directed Sagitarian nature wont work in this area. So what! It seems to be working for me, I am the most joyful and loving in my 64 years. My mind is sharper than it has ever been. How many realized being are they that meet my standards. Maybe 4 or 5 on this earth if that many. Nisargadatta may have had only mental and spiritual powers but not Moksha. Anigorica Munindra, I might not be spelling him name right, was Joseph Goldsteins mediatation teacher. He came to talk at a Vipassana group here and said that Ramana did not reach the highest in Buddas cosmology. He said that he reached a very high state though of Universal consciousness. I dont remember the stages in Buddism so I cant give you more about it. At the time I reacted to what Munindra said and did not ask more questions. I should have asked him how he knew the above. Of course, you know that he was accused of ravishing the females at Barre and when Joseph asked him about it Munindra refused to answer. > > Now there is a rumor being spread around that Satan is the keeper > > of the Moksha door. > > Recognized that this is humor, but there is in fact no door and no > entrance -- as there is no need for one! No I am serious. There cant be a god as this world is so full of suffering, so it must be Satan's creation. Love, Alton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 04:23:11 -0000 "ALTON ALTON" <lostnfoundation writes: > Hi Omkara aka Tim: > [snip] > > > > Now there is a rumor being spread around that Satan is the > keeper > > > of the Moksha door. > > > > Recognized that this is humor, but there is in fact no door and no > > entrance -- as there is no need for one! > > No I am serious. There cant be a god as this world is so full of > suffering, so it must be Satan's creation. > I hope this smidgen of Sant Mat doctrine doesn't blind you to the fact that the world is also full of exquisite beauty -- or to the fact that "Satan" is just doing "his" job as per the divine will! http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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