Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Hi Maria Thanks for you loving feedback, its always appreciated. Love, Alton , "Maria Pauwels" <bleuke@p...> wrote: > Dear Alton, > > ever heard of 'EGO' ??? > Satan's ceation?? > this beautifull and perfect world??? > and you call yourself a 'spiritual' being? > lots to learn,my friend!! > > Love and Light, > > Maria > > - > "ALTON ALTON" <lostnfoundation> > > Saturday, June 30, 2001 6:23 AM > Alton-Re: I WOULD GIVE... > > > > Hi Omkara aka Tim: > > > > Thanks for you views, but remember they are just emanating from your > > conditioning and not the truth. > > > > > > > > , "Omkara" <coresite@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I want to be like Sir Edmond Hilary, who had Mars an Pluto > > > > conjunct in the 8 house, so I read. When he climbed Everest > > > > successfully he shouted out 'WE KNOCKED THE BASTARD OFF" > > > > > > Trouble is, the model of "achieving a goal" (so common in everyday > > > life) does not apply to "Moksha" or "Realization." In fact > > > (relatively speaking), any movement "toward" is actually > > > movement "away." > > > > So your are saying that my goal directed Sagitarian nature wont work > > in this area. So what! It seems to be working for me, I am the most > > joyful and loving in my 64 years. My mind is sharper than it has ever > > been. > > > > How many realized being are they that meet my standards. Maybe 4 or 5 > > on this earth if that many. > > Nisargadatta may have had only mental and spiritual powers but not > > Moksha. Anigorica Munindra, I might not be spelling him name right, > > was Joseph Goldsteins mediatation teacher. He came to talk at a > > Vipassana group here and said that Ramana did not reach the highest > > in Buddas cosmology. He said that he reached a very high state though > > of Universal consciousness. I dont remember the stages in Buddism so > > I cant give you more about it. At the time I reacted to what Munindra > > said and did not ask more questions. I should have asked him how he > > knew the above. Of course, you know that he was accused of ravishing > > the females at Barre and when Joseph asked him about it Munindra > > refused to answer. > > > > > > > > > > Now there is a rumor being spread around that Satan is the keeper > > > > of the Moksha door. > > > > > > Recognized that this is humor, but there is in fact no door and no > > > entrance -- as there is no need for one! > > > > No I am serious. There cant be a god as this world is so full of > > suffering, so it must be Satan's creation. > > > > Love, > > Alton > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside > back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than > the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. > Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is > where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal > Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously > arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Hi Alton, I feel to say that I am sorry.... I am not in the right to judge you. Sorry! Love and Light, Maria > Hi Maria > Thanks for you loving feedback, its always appreciated. > Love, > Alton > > > > > , "Maria Pauwels" <bleuke@p...> wrote: > > Dear Alton, > > > > ever heard of 'EGO' ??? > > Satan's ceation?? > > this beautifull and perfect world??? > > and you call yourself a 'spiritual' being? > > lots to learn,my friend!! > > > > Love and Light, > > > > Maria > > > > - > > "ALTON ALTON" <lostnfoundation> > > > > Saturday, June 30, 2001 6:23 AM > > Alton-Re: I WOULD GIVE... > > > > > > > Hi Omkara aka Tim: > > > > > > Thanks for you views, but remember they are just emanating from > your > > > conditioning and not the truth. > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Omkara" <coresite@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, I want to be like Sir Edmond Hilary, who had Mars an > Pluto > > > > > conjunct in the 8 house, so I read. When he climbed Everest > > > > > successfully he shouted out 'WE KNOCKED THE BASTARD OFF" > > > > > > > > Trouble is, the model of "achieving a goal" (so common in > everyday > > > > life) does not apply to "Moksha" or "Realization." In fact > > > > (relatively speaking), any movement "toward" is actually > > > > movement "away." > > > > > > So your are saying that my goal directed Sagitarian nature wont > work > > > in this area. So what! It seems to be working for me, I am the > most > > > joyful and loving in my 64 years. My mind is sharper than it has > ever > > > been. > > > > > > How many realized being are they that meet my standards. Maybe 4 > or 5 > > > on this earth if that many. > > > Nisargadatta may have had only mental and spiritual powers but not > > > Moksha. Anigorica Munindra, I might not be spelling him name > right, > > > was Joseph Goldsteins mediatation teacher. He came to talk at a > > > Vipassana group here and said that Ramana did not reach the > highest > > > in Buddas cosmology. He said that he reached a very high state > though > > > of Universal consciousness. I dont remember the stages in Buddism > so > > > I cant give you more about it. At the time I reacted to what > Munindra > > > said and did not ask more questions. I should have asked him how > he > > > knew the above. Of course, you know that he was accused of > ravishing > > > the females at Barre and when Joseph asked him about it Munindra > > > refused to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now there is a rumor being spread around that Satan is the > keeper > > > > > of the Moksha door. > > > > > > > > Recognized that this is humor, but there is in fact no door and > no > > > > entrance -- as there is no need for one! > > > > > > No I am serious. There cant be a god as this world is so full of > > > suffering, so it must be Satan's creation. > > > > > > Love, > > > Alton > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, > sights, > > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and > subside > > back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not > different than > > the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of > Awareness. > > Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. > Home is > > where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of > Eternal > > Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, > spontaneously > > arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Hi Maria, One of the consequences of nonduality is, you only judge yourself... And it could be interesting to know what is an observation and what is opinion, and what is judgement... Perhaps this will shed some light on what is meant with the biblical judgement day (not exactly a day of course)... Joy and Light, Jan On 6/30/01 at 7:53 PM Maria Pauwels wrote: ºHi Alton, º ºI feel to say that I am sorry.... ºI am not in the right to judge you. ºSorry! º ºLove and Light, ºMaria º º º> Hi Maria º> Thanks for you loving feedback, its always appreciated. º> Love, º> Alton º> º> º> º> º> , "Maria Pauwels" <bleuke@p...> wrote: º> > Dear Alton, º> > º> > ever heard of 'EGO' ??? º> > Satan's ceation?? º> > this beautifull and perfect world??? º> > and you call yourself a 'spiritual' being? º> > lots to learn,my friend!! º> > º> > Love and Light, º> > º> > Maria º> > º> > - º> > "ALTON ALTON" <lostnfoundation> º> > º> > Saturday, June 30, 2001 6:23 AM º> > Alton-Re: I WOULD GIVE... º> > º> > º> > > Hi Omkara aka Tim: º> > > º> > > Thanks for you views, but remember they are just emanating from º> your º> > > conditioning and not the truth. º> > > º> > > º> > > º> > > , "Omkara" <coresite@h...> wrote: º> > > > º> > > > > Yes, I want to be like Sir Edmond Hilary, who had Mars an º> Pluto º> > > > > conjunct in the 8 house, so I read. When he climbed Everest º> > > > > successfully he shouted out 'WE KNOCKED THE BASTARD OFF" º> > > > º> > > > Trouble is, the model of "achieving a goal" (so common in º> everyday º> > > > life) does not apply to "Moksha" or "Realization." In fact º> > > > (relatively speaking), any movement "toward" is actually º> > > > movement "away." º> > > º> > > So your are saying that my goal directed Sagitarian nature wont º> work º> > > in this area. So what! It seems to be working for me, I am the º> most º> > > joyful and loving in my 64 years. My mind is sharper than it has º> ever º> > > been. º> > > º> > > How many realized being are they that meet my standards. Maybe 4 º> or 5 º> > > on this earth if that many. º> > > Nisargadatta may have had only mental and spiritual powers but not º> > > Moksha. Anigorica Munindra, I might not be spelling him name º> right, º> > > was Joseph Goldsteins mediatation teacher. He came to talk at a º> > > Vipassana group here and said that Ramana did not reach the º> highest º> > > in Buddas cosmology. He said that he reached a very high state º> though º> > > of Universal consciousness. I dont remember the stages in Buddism º> so º> > > I cant give you more about it. At the time I reacted to what º> Munindra º> > > said and did not ask more questions. I should have asked him how º> he º> > > knew the above. Of course, you know that he was accused of º> ravishing º> > > the females at Barre and when Joseph asked him about it Munindra º> > > refused to answer. º> > > º> > > º> > > º> > > > > Now there is a rumor being spread around that Satan is the º> keeper º> > > > > of the Moksha door. º> > > > º> > > > Recognized that this is humor, but there is in fact no door and º> no º> > > > entrance -- as there is no need for one! º> > > º> > > No I am serious. There cant be a god as this world is so full of º> > > suffering, so it must be Satan's creation. º> > > º> > > Love, º> > > Alton º> > > º> > > º> > > º> > > /join º> > > º> > > º> > > º> > > º> > > º> > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, º> sights, º> > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and º> subside º> > back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not º> different than º> > the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of º> Awareness. º> > Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. º> Home is º> > where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of º> Eternal º> > Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, º> spontaneously º> > arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. º> > > º> > > º> > > º> > > Your use of is subject to º> º> > > º> > > º> > > º> º> º> /join º> º> º> º> º> º> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, ºperceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside ºback into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than ºthe ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of ºAwareness. ºAwareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is ºwhere the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal ºBeing. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, ºspontaneously ºarising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. º> º> º> º> Your use of is subject to º> º> º> º º º/join º º º º º ºAll paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, ºperceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and ºsubside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not ºdifferent than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the ºnature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. ºIt is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the ºFinality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of ºSelf-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome ºall to a. º º º ºYour use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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