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On 7/1/01 at 2:10 AM Omkara wrote:

 

º, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

º> ºWhat is the coinciding between "the body is insentient" or "the

º> body ºis an insentient log," and "body is Self too?" Could you

º> explain ºthis apparent discrepancy?

º>

º> First, could you explain why that is a discrepancy?

º

ºi don't know, logically it seems to be. With the statement "body is

ºSelf too," what then is the "point" of proclaiming "body is an

ºinsentient log?" Maybe only to encourage "unattachment" to the body,

ºbut i don't see any other reason for it.

 

Ramana repeatedly emphasized something like "I am not the body" -

aimed at some, only for reasons of detachment from it.

And because feelings can be quite overpowering, remarks like

"the body is an insentient log"... The NT uses the terminology of

dying - first death, there is no such "thing" as "I"

second death, that of the sentient entity, the potential to feel

and then, the phrase "the body is an insentient log" applies.

Yet it is the Self too and body, "feeling" as empty space,

that is quite impressive, to use an understatement, and beyond

imagination.

 

º

ºIn the case of Ramana, the statement "utterly neglected body"

ºcouldn't apply, since 'that body' lived a fairly long life... utter

ºneglect suggests 'death' at a young age.

 

The remarks regarding "utter neglect" are C.G. Jung's - made because it's

obvious

from the biography... Devotees took care of Ramana and that ended the period of

neglect. Of course it wasn't intentional neglect - but the result of total

forgetfulness

of "body", being absorbed in the bliss of Self.

 

Joy and Light,

Jan

º

ºJoy & Happiness,

º

ºTim

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Hi Jan,

 

, "jb" <kvy9@l...> wrote:

> º> Impressions are made in all matter - no matter how subtle.

> º

> ºYes, but only 'momentarily'... as a bird flying leaves no trail,

> or a ºflash of lightning does not burn a black mark into the sky.

>

> A bird leaves a momentary trail in the air (look with polarized

> light to see the turbulence) and that leaves more subtle traces

> etc. etc. - seemingly ending at subatomic level.

 

Certainly not the "point" of the above observation, but that's OK. A

statement like "leaves no impression" is not referring to polarized

light and various scientific terminology :-).

 

Rather, "pointing to" a sort of perceiving (some

call 'apperceiving'?) where for example -- looking away from the

computer screen, immediately everything there is "forgotten" and no

thoughts about it arise... looking back at the screen, "picked up

again" and looking away... forgotten. That means, no new vasanas are

being 'added on' anymore.

> ºIt seems only a (small) subset of "advaitic terminology" covers

> that.

>

> It's a rare occasion - hence.

 

Perhaps. It doesn't seem worth much more discussion.

> ºIndeed... there is no apparent end to the mental labeling.

>

> There is neither a beginning nor an end to manifestation -

> something not to be overlooked.

 

Since 'mentation' is connected with the body-mind, upon 'physical

death' it could be said that at least a complete end to "mental

categorizing" :-). Sure, manifestation continues... as 'pure life

energy' only, not separated into mental categories.

 

Namaste,

 

Tim

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