Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Dear Alton You wrote: > On this board though I really will leave if someone feels that I am > unloving and offensive to them, because this is a place of "loving > you loving me loving you", as you wrote. Don't worry, Alton, 'not loving' is only an attitude, just a transitory personality trait, just part of an illusive mask behind which a real human being is temporarily hiding (for whatever reason). Whoever identifies you with that mask is looking through the same mask but from the other way in. A mask is anonymous... that is why it is a mask... Problem is that we usually identify a human being with a 'person who is playing out character traits'. Whoever takes anger or hatred, debt or guilt, fear or threat 'negativities' seriously is only attempting to prove that "there can be 'something' to a concept that is even less than nothing", that such conceptual non-quantity is somehow more real than something that is equal to or greater than nothing. (((:-))) It may take close to a whole lifetime to try to prove that there might be reality to negativity... but negativity cannot prevail. When one recovers immortality (amrita) the 'evident' gets unveiled or unmasked more and more. When I meet new clients, I see only... I cannot help that... perfection or wholeness. Then, because they insist, I give them a chance to convince me that they are not perfection. (Can you believe that people pay for that?) Of course they eventually find out that imperfection is not possible in the real world, eventually convincing themselves that what they try to prove cannot be true. (They always let me keep the money :-) We cannot take anything negative seriously. The 'negative' is on the other side of the zero on a conceptual number line. Negativity is less than nothing... it does NOT exist... that is why we call it negative... THIS IS NOT WORD PLAY. If we treat negativity as though it is more real than the stuff on the other side of zero on that conceptual number line, we are upholding a concept... We are attempting to live in a conceptual world, trying to prove that the conceptual is reality. Granted, that is what most people try to do, that is what is usually called 'life', but it is not life, it is 'illusion': trial and error. So, Alton, if a person tries to convince you that you are not loving, than that person only tries to prove their own illusion... Illusions can only be proved with illusions... that is what is usually called life... but life is not that... life is real..., you are, I am love, Wim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Dear Wim: Thanks for you brilliant insight. Now all I have to do is be clear about confusion. Love, Confused , "Wim Borsboom" <aurasphere@h...> wrote: > Dear Alton > > You wrote: > > On this board though I really will leave if someone feels that I am > > unloving and offensive to them, because this is a place of "loving > > you loving me loving you", as you wrote. > > Don't worry, Alton, 'not loving' is only an attitude, just a transitory > personality trait, just part of an illusive mask behind which a real > human being is temporarily hiding (for whatever reason). > Whoever identifies you with that mask is looking through the same mask > but from the other way in. > A mask is anonymous... that is why it is a mask... > Problem is that we usually identify a human being with a 'person who is > playing out character traits'. > > Whoever takes anger or hatred, debt or guilt, fear or threat > 'negativities' seriously is only attempting to prove that "there can be > 'something' to a concept that is even less than nothing", that such > conceptual non-quantity is somehow more real than something that is > equal to or greater than nothing. > (((:-))) > It may take close to a whole lifetime to try to prove that there might > be reality to negativity... but negativity cannot prevail. When one > recovers immortality (amrita) the 'evident' gets unveiled or unmasked > more and more. > > When I meet new clients, I see only... I cannot help that... perfection > or wholeness. > Then, because they insist, I give them a chance to convince me that they > are not perfection. (Can you believe that people pay for that?) Of > course they eventually find out that imperfection is not possible in the > real world, eventually convincing themselves that what they try to prove > cannot be true. (They always let me keep the money :-) > > We cannot take anything negative seriously. The 'negative' is on the > other side of the zero on a conceptual number line. Negativity is less > than nothing... it does NOT exist... that is why we call it negative... > THIS IS NOT WORD PLAY. > If we treat negativity as though it is more real than the stuff on the > other side of zero on that conceptual number line, we are upholding a > concept... We are attempting to live in a conceptual world, trying to > prove that the conceptual is reality. Granted, that is what most people > try to do, that is what is usually called 'life', but it is not life, it > is 'illusion': trial and error. > > So, Alton, if a person tries to convince you that you are not loving, > than that person only tries to prove their own illusion... > > Illusions can only be proved with illusions... that is what is usually > called life... but life is not that... life is real..., you are, I am > love, Wim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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