Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 I was driving with a friend to Costco today and I told her what goes on in our house. The mother continuously attacks our grandson unmercifully. I never observed him sad or depressed, always out until late each evening with his friends or girl friend. That is the main reason that I objected to the psychiatrist putting him on mind meds. He is quite brilliant but got susspended from college because of low marks. The reason being that he never opens a book or does any homework. Its just his mental tendencies and no one has been able to change that. I think that probably the main reason is that he is contemplating suicide. I talk to him about it and he say that he will call two people before he does it The friend said how can you take that. The reason is in the title of this page. The teachings work for me. I am much less reactive and quite a bit more loving that before we started on this sadhanna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 - ALTON A ALTON Friday, July 06, 2001 2:47 AM The real value of the teachings and meditation I was driving with a friend to Costco today and I told her what goes on in our house. The mother continuously attacks our grandson unmercifully. I never observed him sad or depressed, always out until late each evening with his friends or girl friend. That is the main reason that I objected to the psychiatrist putting him on mind meds.He is quite brilliant but got susspended from college because of low marks. The reason being that he never opens a book or does any homework. Its just his mental tendencies and no one has been able to change that. I think that probably the main reason is that he is contemplating suicide. I talk to him about it and he say that he will call two people before he does itThe friend said how can you take that.The reason is in the title of this page.The teachings work for me. I am much less reactive and quite a bit more loving that before we started on this sadhanna.Dear Alton, 1. Wow, you must really have something against meds, if taking them appears worse than risking death by suicide. Whatever you mean by "just his mental tendencies" - it sounds like a lousy excuse to me. Was the son actually willing to consider getting help, and you vetoed this plan? Do you know a short term treatment may be effective here, doesn't mean he will need meds all his life or anything, if he takes some for a while. Why would you think you know better than a professional what to do here? 2. If you are able to intervene to object to the psychiatrist, why not object to the mother's continually attacking him? She could use some counseling how this is impacting her son. No wonder he is always out, avoiding being around her & the criticism? It' not that I am blaming her, just saying her reaction to all this is not a constructive one. 3. Please educate yourself about the real signs and symptoms of depression. Low marks while brilliant is one of them for sure. Teens and young people are more likely to act out rather than "appear sad"... Persistently and openly discussing suicide is like a major sign to do something here, Alton. Males especially, are more often likely to actually act impulsively and succeed more often too. Promises "to call" mean nothing... Alton, do a search and read some of these web sites, please. http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/depchildresfact.cfm Symptoms of Major Depressive DisorderCommon to Adults, Children, and Adolescents 14 Persistent sad or irritable mood Loss of interest in activities once enjoyed Significant change in appetite or body weight Difficulty sleeping or oversleeping Psychomotor agitation or retardation Loss of energy Feelings of worthlessness or inappropriate guilt Difficulty concentrating Recurrent thoughts of death or suicide Five or more of these symptoms must persist for 2 or more weeks before a diagnosis of major depression is indicated. Signs That May Be Associated with Depression in Children and Adolescents Frequent vague, non-specific physical complaints such as headaches, muscle aches, stomachaches or tiredness Frequent absences from school or poor performance in school Talk of or efforts to run away from home Outbursts of shouting, complaining, unexplained irritability, or crying Being bored Lack of interest in playing with friends Alcohol or substance abuse Social isolation, poor communication Fear of death Extreme sensitivity to rejection or failure Increased irritability, anger, or hostility Reckless behavior Difficulty with relationships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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