Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Hello Tony, I appreciate your coining the term "vnd-ist." I think it is apt, clever, and I've come to use it myself. I agree with you about the verbal talk-stuff versus what it takes to do more than talk. People seek true transformation, whereas vnd-ism provides only translation. There's often a nihilistic trait to some vnd-ism. There are many vnd-ists around. Some of my best friends, on the Internet and in "real life," are vnd-ists. Thank you for the term. On this list () however, vnd-ism is not a problem. This list in principle and largely in practice, is about being together in love and in truth. In this list, people express their love and devotion to their favorite teacher, teaching, yoga, text, sutra, etc. You don't hear a lot of talk like "there's nothing to be devoted to, and no one to be devoted." This list doesn't really need your frequent reminders of the evils of vnd-ism. Probably everyone here has gotten your message about this. Also unnecessary are the pointed, personal, insulting remarks about/to jb. You have made your point. It's not within the guidelines of . If you wish to discuss something with jb, you can write him, I'm sure. Who knows what may come of a more personal, off-line interaction? If you take this into consideration, thanks! With love, --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 , Greg Goode <goode@D...> wrote: > Hello Tony, > > I appreciate your coining the term "vnd-ist." I think it is apt, clever, > and I've come to use it myself. I agree with you about the verbal > talk-stuff versus what it takes to do more than talk. People seek true > transformation, whereas vnd-ism provides only translation. There's often a > nihilistic trait to some vnd-ism. There are many vnd-ists around. Some of > my best friends, on the Internet and in "real life," are vnd-ists. Thank > you for the term. > > On this list () however, vnd-ism is not a problem. This list > in principle and largely in practice, is about being together in love and > in truth. In this list, people express their love and devotion to their > favorite teacher, teaching, yoga, text, sutra, etc. You don't hear a lot > of talk like "there's nothing to be devoted to, and no one to be devoted." > This list doesn't really need your frequent reminders of the evils of > vnd-ism. Probably everyone here has gotten your message about this. > > Also unnecessary are the pointed, personal, insulting remarks about/to jb. > You have made your point. It's not within the guidelines of > . If you wish to discuss something with jb, you can write > him, I'm sure. Who knows what may come of a more personal, off-line > interaction? > > If you take this into consideration, thanks! > > With love, > > --Greg Namaste Greg, Thank you, you are right, look at my post a tale of two vndists...ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 16:42:01 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery writes: > , Greg Goode <goode@D...> wrote: > > Hello Tony, > > > > I appreciate your coining the term "vnd-ist." I think it is apt, > > clever, > > and I've come to use it myself. I agree with you about the > verbal > > talk-stuff versus what it takes to do more than talk. People seek > > true > > transformation, whereas vnd-ism provides only translation. > There's > often a > > nihilistic trait to some vnd-ism. There are many vnd-ists around. > > Some of > > my best friends, on the Internet and in "real life," are vnd-ists. > > Thank > > you for the term. > > > > On this list () however, vnd-ism is not a problem. > > This list > > in principle and largely in practice, is about being together in > love and > > in truth. In this list, people express their love and devotion to > > their > > favorite teacher, teaching, yoga, text, sutra, etc. You don't > hear > a lot > > of talk like "there's nothing to be devoted to, and no one to be > devoted." > > This list doesn't really need your frequent reminders of the evils > > of > > vnd-ism. Probably everyone here has gotten your message about > this. > > > > Also unnecessary are the pointed, personal, insulting remarks > about/to jb. > > You have made your point. It's not within the guidelines of > > . If you wish to discuss something with jb, you can > > write > > him, I'm sure. Who knows what may come of a more personal, > off-line > > interaction? > > > > If you take this into consideration, thanks! > > > > With love, > > > > --Greg > > Namaste Greg, > > Thank you, you are right, look at my post a tale of two > vndists...ONS...Tony. > Tony, if you honestly see that post as some kind of change or improvement in your demeanor vis a vis this satsangha, I seriously suggest you consider posting elsewhere. Personal attacks are simply not appropriate here, no matter how they are phrased. http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 17:03:31 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery writes: > , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > > > Thank you, you are right, look at my post a tale of two > > > vndists...ONS...Tony. > > > > > Tony, if you honestly see that > > post as some kind of change or > > improvement in your demeanor > > vis a vis this satsangha, I > > seriously suggest you consider > > posting elsewhere. Personal > > attacks are simply not > > appropriate here, no matter > > how they are phrased. > > Namaste, > > Oh I get it, you can say what you want, attack the vulnerable, spy > and lie, as long as you don't mention anybodies or the culprits > name???? Are you accusing me of attacking, spying, and lying, Tony? I just want to be sure "I get it" before proceeding any further. > ONS....Tony. > http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 17:03:31 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> > writes: > > , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you, you are right, look at my post a tale of two > > > > vndists...ONS...Tony. > > > > > > > Tony, if you honestly see that > > > post as some kind of change or > > > improvement in your demeanor > > > vis a vis this satsangha, I > > > seriously suggest you consider > > > posting elsewhere. Personal > > > attacks are simply not > > > appropriate here, no matter > > > how they are phrased. > > > > Namaste, > > > > Oh I get it, you can say what you want, attack the vulnerable, spy > > and lie, as long as you don't mention anybodies or the culprits > > name???? > > Are you accusing me of attacking, > spying, and lying, Tony? I just > want to be sure "I get it" before > proceeding any further. > > > ONS....Tony. Namaste, It is not about you!!!!!!!However proceed wherever you want. As I can't mention their names you will have to guess.....ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 17:16:33 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery writes: > , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 17:03:31 -0000 "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> > > writes: > > > , Bruce Morgen <editor@j...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you, you are right, look at my post a tale of two > > > > > vndists...ONS...Tony. > > > > > > > > > Tony, if you honestly see that > > > > post as some kind of change or > > > > improvement in your demeanor > > > > vis a vis this satsangha, I > > > > seriously suggest you consider > > > > posting elsewhere. Personal > > > > attacks are simply not > > > > appropriate here, no matter > > > > how they are phrased. > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Oh I get it, you can say what you want, attack the vulnerable, > spy > > > and lie, as long as you don't mention anybodies or the culprits > > > > name???? > > > > Are you accusing me of attacking, > > spying, and lying, Tony? I just > > want to be sure "I get it" before > > proceeding any further. > > > > > ONS....Tony. > Namaste, > > It is not about you!!!!!!! OK -- when you write something like "you can say what you want," etc. the question is only natural. > However proceed wherever you want. The wheels are already rotating. > As I > can't mention their names you will have to guess These "names" are not at issue. *Your* activity on *this* list -- not NDS -- is. http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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