Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Dear List, The following is reposted from the Nisargadatta list. It concerns a list member there by the name of Cathy B., who had the privilege of meeting Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj while he was still alive and was kind enough to share her experiences with the list in a series of postings! i found this account to be a most enjoyable read, and i think many here will, too. Apologies for the length of these posts, hopefully it won't cause problems with anyone's Email software. [Part 2 of 2] "From the Omkara Archives" (raw and unedited) ;-)... * * * Maharaj had spoken to a Rajneesh Sanyassin with much love and compassion when he aksed the sanyassin "Don't you get to ask your guru these kinds of questions?" The Sanayassin said that it was difficult to get close and ask these kinds of questions. The whole room was permeated by Maharaj's love and concern. It was an interesting time to be in Bombay, in 1978. There were many western seekers in the city. The Rajneesh sanyassins stood out in my mind because they all wore red or bright orange, yet the woman many times dressed in tank tops (orange ones) without bras. They had a very sexual presence. I am not a prude, but I think that India wasn't quite ready for them, couldn't quite make out the walking paradoxes they appeared to be, sexual sannayassins. There were also many Muktananada devotees. It was a revelation to me to see how many English, German and Dutch seekers there were, with a minority of American ones. I became aware of my own national pride which I had not been aware of, like how I was special because I was american. But there were many more sincere European seekers (more deluded ones too!). This brings me to the day that J. Krishamurti came to Bombay to speak. Apparently Rajneesh had encouraged his sanyassins to come to town to hear him speak in the late afternoon, early evening. The young sanyassin whom Maharaj spoke so compassionately with brought a group of about twenty sanyassins to meet him. The first thing Maharaj did was divide us by gender. Then he told a mother who was a sanyassin to make her child pull in his legs (as they were stretched out towards Maharaj) as it was impolite. He started off saying that he had separated them by sex because although he wasn't concerned about sex, it appeared that they were very fixated on it and he felt that it would help them concentrate. He said"If it was up to me I would stack you one on top of another like a pile of wood, but you are so fascinated that I have separated you.' This is my paraphrase, but I clearly remember the part about stacking you one on top of another. He asked for questions. I remember one woman relaying a Buddhist analogy about using skillful means as a boat to the other shore which is Nirvana. Maharaj said "I would put you all into the boat, send you to the other shore and I would stay here on this shore!" He was intent on breaking through their spiritual concepts and was not impressed with them in the least. Before I left for Maine, I was telling you all about when I felt like I betrayed Maharaj because I had gone to see his Guru brother, Bhai Nath Maharaj. After sharing with Maharaj the whole of it, he laughed and said, "Oh no, you are free to see anyone!" I had taken his question " Are you going to roam about?" as an injunction not to seek and was too literal about it. My translator, Mr. Mullarpattan smiled and told me that J. Krishnamurti was going to be speaking that very evening. Now, I never really felt much interest in Krishnamurti but I was curious. Even in Maharaj's loft there was a line drawing of Krishnamurti. People seemed to speak about Krishnamurti with reverance. I remember there was even some talk about attempting a meeting between Maharaj and Krishnamurti. I was told it never happened because Krishnamurti's car could not fit down Ketwadi Lane. This may have been wishful thinking, not really what happened. It was a very interesting scene. I went with my translator friend, Mr. Mullarpattan. It was held out of doors,in a kind of open park. There were many Rajneesh Sanyassins and afluent,young, intellectual Indians. Krishnamurti seemed peaceful, beautiful but fretful. There was a hillarious scene where he was saying "Nowadays the pressures of society deform the brain, we can't even see the birds." Meanwhile behind him there was a bird caught in a kite string. The Bombay Fire Department was trying to free it while buzzards were circling the poor trapped bird. It was a real Keystone Kops kind of a scene. And I thought," Krishnamurti, you are so caught up in your imagery of nature you can't see the birds as they really are!" Next morning after speaking to Maharaj he said "Krishnamurti is a great thinker" I took that in a negative context while the rest of the folks thought he was complimenting Krishnamurti.I looked into Maharaj's eyes. I felt a oneness.I had to agree, Krishnamurti was a great thinker. I had been bringing offerings that I purchased in the marketplace. Somedays it was sweets, sometimes fruit, most days flowers. It is customary to bring them and since the first day when Mr. Hate suggested it, it became my habit. It was one of those things that just went with prostrating. I liked to bring a small garland of flowers, made out of jasmine or tuberrose, something pretty. One day I brought such a small garland and Maharaj smiled and explained, through the translator that these garlands were actually decorations for women's hair. At this time Maharaj's granddaughter (by his son) was standing in the corner grinning. I had to laugh as it never occurred to me that this was for another purpose than the one I had given. He beckoned to his granddaughter and gave her the little garland. In a moment she swooped down, got the garland and ran down the stairs, laughing. It must have been hilarious for her! There were so many Indian customs that I didn't know. When people brought sweets or fruit, they would be divided and distributed at the end of the talks. I remember that they would take an old school notebook and rip the pages out and fold the prasad into them. It struck me how everything was valuable in India, even a used notebook could be used for a higher purpose. One day Mr. Mullarpattan, my translator asked me if I would like to visit the samadhi of Sri Siddharameshwar ( Maharaj's Guru.) A samadhi is sort of like a monument or gravestone commemorating a saint or sage's grave. Although I wasn't sure if I would like to see it, I took Mr. Pattan up on his invitation. It took us two doubledecker busses to go from his house to the cremation ground by the Arabian Sea. Our translator explained that although most people were cremated, some enlightened beings were buried because they had already been cremated by the fire of Self Knowledge. This was the case in Sri Siddharameshwar's case. Cremated in life, it was unnecessaru to be cremated in death. The place was kind of intense, with the grey Indian Ocean in the back ground and the ashy empty biers. The samadhi was old. Mr. Pattan brought the requisite articles for a puja, a banana, some camphor, incense. We chanted and circumabulated the samadhi and he did an aarti for us. It was more inspiring than I had imagined and I felt moved and privilaged to be at this holy spot. I came to a deeper reverence for Sri Siddharameshwar. Years later I saw a video of Maharaj with his disciples at this same samadhi, doing puja, chanting. I believe it was either a death anniversary or so other important occassion. Having been there, I felt that I understood the experience more deeply. Of Maharaj's reverence for Siddharameshwar. And in years after that, when I heard of Maharaj's own funeral, I could visualize it taking place. Supposedly, he was taken on the back of a truck, a brass band playing, the whole neighborhood turning out. Which was interesting because they acted like he was just an ordinary guy. Maharaj was cremated. But I think that is in keeping with the way he lived, like a common man, no fanfare. One day my friend, Rick and I took a taxi to Maharaj's home. As we approached the Alfred Cinema our taxi driver said "You like your Guru?No charge." Now we had only told him to take us to the address near the Alfred Cinema and had not mentioned Maharaj. So my friend and I got out of the taxi and started walking (after thanking the driver.) The driver came running up and said, "No charge for me...but the petrol..." I felt like an insensitive boor, I hadn't understood that the driver had to pay for the petrol and it came right out of his pocket. We apologized profusely and paid him. He said "Enjoy your Guru." Now I do not know if he assumed that Westerners in Bombay would be visiting a Guru, or if he knew of Sri Nisargadatta. People in the neighborhood would, the local policeman, the people on the street. But no one would let on that he was a famous Guru. Bombay has many beggars. We would see many children beggars when we took walks on Marine Drive. People would flaunt their deformity and make our western minds swoon. Some days I would be giving money to anyone who asked. The next day I would refuse everyone. No matter what I did, I didn't feel comfortable. I was impressed with one young beggar who had a deformed lower leg. He would come up to our taxi as we were sitting in traffic and lift his leg and show us his deformity. Wewould keep running into him. After awhile, we would all be laughing, "You again!" One day in particular we ran into him in the area where Maharaj lived and then shortly afterwards in an another part of town. I was impress that he was so mobile. That night I sat in my hotel room thinking about our beggar friend. He seemed bright and full of energy. I thought, I could give him all the money in the world but it would not be the same as bringing him to truth. After all, he lived in the same town as Maharaj. I talked to my friend Rick about this. After thinking about it some more, I decided I would invite my beggar to Satsang. I felt I could never really help the beggars of Bombay in a real way except in this fashion. I decided the next time I ran into him (and I knew I would!) that I would give him the address. The next day that happened. We laughed as usual, I think I gave him some money and a piece of paper with Maharaj's address written on it. Then we left him and went off to Satsang. Satsang was full underway. Then somehow we came to the point of the condition of a lame man. I had not instigated the current topic of conversation, it was a complete coincidence, when there was a knock on the door. Then the announcement that there was a lame man at the door. With great effort, people were able to get my beggar up the steep ladder stairs to Maharaj's loft. Once there, the beggar friend sat down. I remember he looked all around the room, blinking his eyes. It occurred to me at that moment that he had never been in a satsang kind of situation. I don't think I considered the fact that he came with out any clue as to what awaited him, but I hadn't given much of an explanation with the address. The dialog with Maharaj continued, however, I could see that Maharaj was much annoyed by the appearance of my beggar. After admitting that I was the one who had invited this man and being scowled at, I realized that I had made a faux pax. I guess inviting in local beggars was something that just wasn't done and Maharaj made no effort to hide his annoyance. I became more upset because I had never had Maharaj annoyed with me and I had all these noble ideas that were shattered. The beggar just looked astonished. He was quiet. At the end of the session Maharaj said to my translator " He is here just to feed his belly, give him twenty rupees!" Mr. Mullarpattan nodded his assent. We all got down from the loft and out on to the street. I stood quietly weeping. I went up to Mr. Mullarpattan who repeated what Maharaj had said to him. But Mr. Mullarpattan told me that when he went up to the beggar to give him the twenty rupees the beggar refused to take it! I thought, Wow! the beggar must have at least felt my love, even if he didn't quite get everything else! Twenty rupees is nothing to sneeze at when you you are poor. I felt wrung out feeling Maharaj's annoyment and my own ambivalant feelings about what I had done. Yet Mr. Mullarpattan was showering me with love and support and that let me feel that it was going to be all right! .... Fini ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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